Re: Sex Before Kissing: How 15-Year-Old Girls Are Dealing With Porn-Obsessed Boys

Fascinating. I didn't know the US had already degenerated to this level although I suspected something along these lines.

15 year old girls should be kept seperate from boys their age or at least supervised. At that age boys have levels of testosterone exceeding even that of violent adult males. I recall thinking about sex or something sex-related almost all the time when I was that age. It faded as puberty ended of course, but pubescent males are basically drugged up on a powerful aphrodisiac drug that also makes them aggressive and impulsive.

The media and liberalism have made it normal for 15 year olds to have sex. The truth is that as much as the hormones tell them to have sex at that age, they're just not mentally and emotionally ready for it.

I don't know about full segregation, but we at least need to be talking about this on a societal level, in comprehensive sex ed classes, etc... & parents are going to have to get over their squeamishness over talking about sex with their kids. As for the last part, I am grateful that I was strong willed & had strong boundaries at 15, because I ended up hearing too many cautionary tales that involved girls who didn't.

At that age boys want to have sex with anything female that moves. Liberalism has normalised sex for all ages to such a degree that it's now bordering on pedophilia.

These days when a teacher has sex with a student it's not even seen as wrong anymore. It's called a sex romp these days. Even when the kid later comes out and feels seduced and abused, the media will often still speak of it as a sex romp instead of rape. The media has created this sense that rules are meant to be broken, that no means yes if you try hard enough and that 'bad boys' are real men.

Too many women put up with it though. These boys become fuckboys in adulthood and consider relationship gatekeeping as a tool to get women to have sex with them. They don't see women as persons proper, just as delectable creatures with warm, soft and moist holes for them to stick their penises in. It was bound to happen at some point though I mean women are objectified just about all the time. I wonder if women are aware of it.

For example I'm sure a bikini is nice to wear but it's effectively the same as being naked, Almost everything of interest is already on display if women wear it, so any time a man wants to ogle women who are stripped almost bare, he can just go to the beach and have his fill.

While there is definitely a faction of pedos trying to normalize their behavior, I really am not convinced that 'liberalism' is wholly to blame for this- people practice child marriage in many of the most socially conservative societies on earth. Even here in the US, FLDS(a breakaway sect of Mormonism) members practice child marriage, & I myself met several girls under 16 who were married off, legally(with 'parental consent'), to much older men in fundamentalist evangelical christian communities. I am not convinced that any of those marriages turned out well. I can't remember who said it, but there was some quote to the effect that many right wing guys consider women private property, but left wing guys consider women public property. I wish what I have observed in my own life convinced me otherwise, but it doesn't.

I don't believe that all men engage in this or are responsible for it, but then they don't really have to- one of the greatest myths is that it takes a majority to influence social trends or societal expectations. As for swimwear/beachwear, my own choices just aren't centered around men's preferences at all- I don't care for hot, crowded beaches, so I'm usually in swimwear either because I'm going for a relaxing swim, or I'm doing some other sort of activity. Neither bikinis, nor the 'burkinis' that are positioned opposite them are actually optimal for any of the activities I like to do...trying to swim, dive, or stay on a board while I'm having to worry about a boob popping out, or dealing with so much extra fabric I might as well be wearing a beekeeper costume doesn't appeal to me. If I wanted to wear lingerie, I would wear lingerie, & I wouldn't be trying to swim in it.

I'm a nihilist and marxist. I'm not coming from the religious angle here (although most men who blame liberalism are so I understand why you would assume that). I'm not trying to say what came before wasn't extremely bad. I mentioned liberalism because as an ideology it's just bad on almost all fronts. I'm anti totalitarian but do believe in a little bit of authoritarianism/illiberalism when needed. Of course I believe in limits to such authoritarianism, I'm of the opinion that some rights are sacred, including right to bodily integrity, as well as the sovereignty of the self, and should be beyond legislation.

Left wing guys who think women are public property are just crazed tankies. Mao used to force people to do everything communally, including take showers together, sleep (not have sex, just sleep) in same room.

There's this thing called dialectical materialism. Some ideas come from the material realm, that is to say the ideas are thought up to justify the material conditions. Right wingers and left wing traitors will come up with ideas to justify the oppression of certain groups, just like how the rich like to claim the poor are lazy and that they are the parasites of society, etc.

Berniebros and common leftists don't even know what marxism is and have never read Das Kapital let alone excerpts of it. Marx says that society is divided into classes. There are the owner classes and then there are the proletariat classes, or simply the proletariat. These workers are exploited and forced to sell their labour as well as their body in certain conditions, to survive.

In a sense, men women and children alike are objectified. Men and children were worked in mines, used like disposable tools and were discarded of when their bodies were destroyed or outlived their usefulness. Women same thing, but also exploited in sexual manner. Men were sent to war like living meat bags to be shot up and bleed to death and die a few years later of PTSD if they survived.

Marx, meant not just labour but oppression as a class. That's why he makes it so very clear that there are the oppressed classes and the capitalist owner class doing the oppression.

Berniebros and so forth don't know anything about Marx, they just want a bailout for their student loans and useless college degrees. (I do think student loan debt has to be restructured though because it's abundantly clear that it's set up as a slavery ring)