(Actually homosexuality does catch on, check out the Romans for instance. It was literally culturally expected that men had several lovers; wives were almost strictly there to make babies and carry on the name.)
However I will list some other societies:
The Greeks
History proves the moral degredation that occurs from it and furthur destroys the argument of "oh, it'll never catch on".
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Ah, this old chestnut. Somebody should tell him that Rome didn't degrade because of homosexuality, that in Rome homosexuality was limited to the upper classes, that the average Roman was far more conservative than a Christian, that ancient Greece's society was "destroyed" by the Romans, that ancient India was conquered by Westerners and that its society did not degrade because of homosexuality.
I'd like to see any bona fide historical research to back up this wacco's assertions.
Accepting homosexuality is only "moral degradation" if one starts from the premise that homosexuality is immoral.
Well, my point is that history does destroy any argument stating that homosexuality when permitted does catch on ...Wabbit season!
...Duck season!
Since when does the prevalence of homosexuality in vastly dispersed sections of the world prove that it's "catching?"
"Degredate?" I assume you mean degrade, but aside from that, your logic is assassinine.that sound familiar...?
Greeks : fell to Roman expansionism
Well, by that logic, we have to asume that NEARLY ALL CIVILISATIONS WERE GAY. They don´t last forever. And talking about the American Indians, I feel particularly offended.
this is so ridiculous I almost didn't respond, but the American Indians were wiped out by 'the gay'? Are you out of your fucking mind? Yeah, American Indians were wiped out by their homosexual lifestyles like the dodo's were. I feel the urge to defecate now.
Actually homosexuality does catch on, check out the Romans for instance. It was literally culturally expected that men had several lovers; wives were almost strictly there to make babies and carry on the name.) However I will list some other societies:
Societies destroyed by homosexuality? Societies that tolerated it? Societies you think are cool? What?
The Greeks
Yeah, the ancient Greeks. A lot of philosophers, and the world's first democracy. Wiped out by the Romans.
Sodom and Gomorah
Mythical. There is no reason to believe they ever existed.
Ancient India
Could refer to a number of cultures. Eventually wiped out by Christians.
The American Indians
Far too many tribes to name offhand. Wiped out by Christians and the diseases they brought.
(For more feel free to google it.)
No, lazyboy, we won't do your research for you.
History proves the moral degredation that occurs from it and furthur destroys the argument of "oh, it'll never catch on".
Homosexuality only causes "moral degredation" according to the Wholly Babble's warped morals, which declare homosexuality itself to be a crime. Since people cannot change their sexual orientation, there is no way that homosexuality could "catch on."
By the way, I asked whether or not people on the opposition were actually concerned with the catching on thing and I recieved the response I thought I would. Basically, they don't care if it catches on or not.
You asked "Are you concerned with the possibility that homosexuality might catch on?" They said no. So you go on to claim: "Homosexuality is going to catch on and people who want to give rights to gays don't care!"
Let me explain this for you in simple words: No one cares about homosexuality "catching on" because no one needs to. Sexual orientation is inborn, therefore people cannot choose to become gay.
Well, my point is that history does destroy any argument stating that homosexuality when permitted does catch on and history furthur destroys any argument stating the homosexuality doesn't degredate society. (Again, research it if you don't believe me)
Typical fundie. Take an absurd position, pile up a bunch of bullshit "evidence" to support it, assert that your position is obvious and that history destroys any counterargument without providing a single example, and ask your opponent to disprove it if he is still skeptical.
So... ok....
Eastern Empire- lasts until at least 1453 CE (arguably 1469 with Trebizond etc, but still)- probably the Western World's longest lived civilisation.
Classical Greece & India- two of the greatest civilisations ever in terms of cultural, scientific & technological achievement, with an exceptionally long political lifespan & more or less permanent cultural influence.
First Human population of Eurasia- c 40,000 bp
Would appear tolerance is a virtue
The Romans, Greeks, Ancient India, and the American Indians were all around for a much longer time than any European country and especially longer than the United States.
And what a terrible thing to say that the American Indians' societies were destroyed by their own moral degredation. They were destroyed, because morally degraded Europeans thought they had the right to come here and force them off their land.
"degredate" !?
No.
No-no-no-no- >.<
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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