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The whole idea of losing one's Eternal Security is preposterous. How can a person have Eternal Security if no one can be eternally secure? It just doesn't add up. Let the Scriptures be your guide. In John 5:39 Jesus commanded His disciples to SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES!!!

Sealed with the Holy Spirit

I triple-dog dare you to show me one person in the Bible who lost their salvation. King David lost the "joy" of salvation, but he didn't lose his salvation. Jesus never spoke of anyone losing their Eternal Security. The Bible has much to say about the assurance of our salvation. As a matter of fact, God gave us the Holy Spirit as an "earnest" of our inheritance in Heaven. The Greek word for "earnest" literally means "down payment." God gave me the Holy Spirit as PROOF that I am a "purchased possession." If you are a believer, then you belong to God and He has made His claim on you.

"...ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory" —Ephesians 1:13,14


Don't tell me I can lose my salvation... my sins have been washed away by the blood of Jesus! I am a "purchased possession." The Holy Spirit is God's claim upon me as His own, which means the Devil cannot claim my soul to Hell. You cannot affect my salvation. I cannot change my eternal security. God has placed His down payment within my body—the Holy Spirit of God.

A License to Sin?

I am going to Heaven, regardless of how I live. But you say, that's crazy! No! That's Bible! So do Christians have a license to sin? Yes, if you want to view it that way.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 13 Comments [9/14/2018 3:06:10 AM]
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checkmate

Don't tell me I can lose my salvation


Uh, ok, I won't. But you can. And it doesn't exist anyway, so I guess you're right, you can't.

So do Christians have a license to sin? Yes, if you want to view it that way.


PARTY!! PARTY!! PARTY!!


9/14/2018 5:52:41 AM

checkmate

King David lost the "joy" of salvation, but he didn't lose his salvation


Huh? I thought everybody who lived before Jesus was born is in Hell. How can King David be saved if he couldn't place his trust in Jesus? You've said that many times.

In John 5:39 Jesus commanded His disciples to SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES!!!


Absolute Bible fail. Epic fail

37 And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, 38 nor does his word dwell in you, for you do not believe the one he sent. 39 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

Jesus is scolding the disciples for reading scriptures but not understanding what they mean. He's not commanding anything. And by the way, he's referring to the Old Testament. You are a heretic and will burn in Hell.

9/14/2018 6:04:51 AM

Doubting Thomas

So I guess since I was baptized and raised as a fervently-believing Christian, I don't have to worry about going to Hell now that I'm an atheist. Good to know.

9/14/2018 6:25:28 AM

Kanna

The only eternal security any of us has is a sure and certain death at the end of it.

9/14/2018 7:53:20 AM

creativerealms

I see. What ever lets you sleep at night.

9/14/2018 8:00:33 AM

KingOfRhye

But you say, that's crazy! No! That's Bible!


The two aren't always mutually exclusive, you know....

9/14/2018 8:06:01 AM

Anon-e-moose

You cannot affect my salvation. I cannot change my eternal security. God has placed His down payment within my body—the Holy Spirit of God.

A License to Sin?

I am going to Heaven, regardless of how I live. But you say, that's crazy! No! That's Bible! So do Christians have a license to sin? Yes, if you want to view it that way


After saving a woman from a judgemental stone-wielding mob - who, after proving them wrong, thus they no longer had the right to think the way they did, fucked off - and forgiving her, a question: What did that man say to her...?!

Something's crazy: Either your KJV - and therefore that man mentioned in such - is crazy, or you are. You're fucked, Davey-boy. >:D

9/14/2018 8:35:52 AM

K

"I am going to Heaven, regardless of how I live. But you say, that's crazy! No! That's Bible! So do Christians have a license to sin? Yes, if you want to view it that way."


Nope. Got that wrong, Davey, Ezekial 36:26 says:

"And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules."

So if you really are saved, you get that new Spirit, and the Spirit will keep you from sinning. You don't have a license to sin, you just become incapable.

So, obviously, Davey was not saved before he had extramartital sex with the babysitter. If he had, he would not even have lusted after the babysitter, much less sexed her.
He hasn't been saved any time he's told a lie. Lying lips are an abomination to God, and the new Spirit would have prevented that.
Also, it would have prevented him from judging people.

It (the spirit) would know the direction of 1 Corinthians 6:10: "Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Hear that Davey? Don't revile. Don't open your mouth when you're slandering someone, or name-calling, preaching hateful words.
Just about every other post of yours proves you're not saved, not yet.

9/14/2018 8:41:47 AM

Thinking Allowed

So do Christians have a license to sin? Yes, if you want to view it that way.


I bet that's your favorite part of living Dave.

9/14/2018 10:34:01 AM

SpukiKitty

Then....once again....WHY DO YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT WOMEN IN PANTS, TAYLOR SWIFT, 20+ YEAR OLD POP CULTURE, ETC. FOR THEIR "SINFULNESS" WHEN YOU KNOW THAT THOSE THINGS ARE FINE AS LONG AS THEY PROFESS "JESUS"!....

I...
...DEMAND...
...AN...
...ANSWER...
...RIGHT...
...NOWWWWWW!


AAAUUUGGGHHH!


I tell ya, folks. Reading this guys is no longer amusing. He legitimately gets me angry. He's like Anne Diehl, that way.

9/14/2018 12:37:13 PM

Chloe

Does it still count if you're now question or just disbelieve in God? That seems like something that would make you loose your salvation.

@K

I was told something similiar but we still have the old nature in us and must fight against it.

9/15/2018 3:06:56 AM



Go and sin no more David. You're wrong in every way every time

9/15/2018 5:13:32 AM

Kat S.

I figured David would say something like this given how sanctimonious and pompous he is.

Adding on to what other posters have said, what you are saying is wrong. If believing Jesus Christ is God is all that it takes to get to Heaven, then what was the point of Christ telling his disciples how to behave and believe as Christians?

9/22/2018 8:00:34 PM

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