@Titania
My feelings on those Bible passages are the same....condemning pederasty and forced temple prostitution.
Agreed of the jerk that WHTM board was commenting on. If he lives down the road from you and surrounded by angry guys who love to flatten him then....POPCORN TIME!
Concerning the woman leaving and getting killed, that was part of what I was arguing about. They were making that point as well as bringing up the unjust variables in society that make it hard for women. I was agreeing....but I was also stating that there must be something an abused person could do in the meantime, since changing the world could take years.
Things didn't start exploding until I took the above point and stated "So should a victim just 'take it'?"....but I said it to an abuse survivor called Kupo, who freaked out over my question.
The thing is, they're not telling me what a victim should do in the meantime. If you can't leave, can't defend yourself AND can't "take it", what do you DO?! I clarified that by "take it" i never said "WILLINGLY take it".
I refuse to believe that it's impossible for the abused to leave their abusers and not get killed. There's a way to do it safely and those ways need to be taught. Abused people need those tips they need to know how to leave an abuser safely! I'm still waiting for the "How to leave an abuser" lessons.
Perhaps their point was that it's impossible but I refuse to accept that and have learned of plenty who leave and survive. I know it's hard and society's deck is often stacked against them, but it can be done and it's done all the time.
I clarified a lot of stuff but they never read that. They assumed I have a one-size-fits-all "ALL abuse victims MUST morph into Xena the Warrior Princess, fight back and dump the abuser's butt!" but I said nothing of the kind and I'm aware that not all abused can leave, want to leave or know they want to leave. I know all about stuff like Stockholm Syndrome, Gaslighting and whatnot, I understand why some stay.
But they wouldn't listen and comprehend.
It makes no sense!
I would love for someone to go over there and explain things. Someone over there, who knows me from over here, did once and it seemed to work....but that was a while back and many of those folks are likely on the WHTM comment thread in question.
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@checkmate
TELL ME ABOUT IT! Lefties need to be open to Lefties less Lefty than them. We need unity. Being a "Purity Freak" is stupid. I'm Lefty as they come but I understand pragmatism and being more moderate in some ways. A limb that can bend does not break.