Warren Kramer #fundie quora.com

Why does an omnipotent God need believers to defend him? Omnipotent means he has the power to defend himself. If god is real why does he shy away from his own existence and leave the burden of proof to his followers? Does not make any sense. A mother gives birth then makes herself invisible to her own child. She guides it. Loves it. Watches over it every second of its life. Tells the child she will provide anything the child requires. Informs the child to preach unashamedly to the world she is the kindest most loving mother in the universe. BUT she will only allow her child to meet her after they are dead and only if they worshiped her correctly. How does that make sense?
You are the greatest King the world has ever seen. You’ve built a palace, brick by brick with your own two hands, and invited all your subjects to come live in it with you. A few have accepted your invitation. But there are others:

Some say you’re arrogant for claiming to have created the palace.
Some say you’re selfish for trying to take credit for it.
Some say theories about the existence of other kings means you don’t exist either.
Some say you’re evil for building it the way you did instead of the way they think it should’ve been built.
Some say you’re “delusional” for believing the palace was actually created instead of just popping into existence by itself.
Some even say you’re imagining things by claiming the palace exists, accusing you of also believing in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Claus, unicorns, leprechauns, and the flying spaghetti monster.
And some look right past the palace as if it didn’t exist and claim that even YOU—the King who built the palace they refuse to see—do not exist.
“But it’s right there in front of you, can’t you see it?” You say.
But they either cannot, or they refuse to. What’s worse, they have all but destroyed the lands outside the gates. Yet they refuse to come inside.

Did you “shy away from your own existence,” or did you build the most magnificent mansion ever seen, right in front of the eyes of all your subjects?

Some of your subjects who have accepted your invitation are concerned about the other subjects who are living in hovels and tents, or sleeping on the ground, in the ruined lands outside the palace gates. This when there is a standing invitation for them to come in. There are signs right on the gate, but many people just make fun of them or claim they aren’t real. The subjects inside the gates point to them, but those outside the gates just tell them to mind their own business.

Some of those inside the gates get into fights and do other evil deeds, just as some outside the gates do. So those outside look at them and say, “See? That means the King isn’t real!” even as they are gripping the palace gates and looking in on the only un-ruined lands around.

You could compel the unruly subjects to act better and obey your every command if you wanted, but you would rather have their love given freely and voluntarily.

And some give it. Including those who go outside the gates and say things like, “Come in! There’s no trick. It’s all free, the King’s palace and table are free gifts. Your room awaits you now, free rooms for all, warm and dry! Won’t you come join us?”

Some accuse them of “forcing” their beliefs on others.
Some say they abuse their children because they raise them inside the gates. They say the ruined lands outside the gates are better.
Some look directly at the palace gates, yet claim those inviting them in are “delusional” for believing the palace and the King exist.
Those inside have a continuous relationship with you, but those outside consider those who claim this the most “delusional” of all, saying you are an “imaginary friend.”
“Then who built this amazing palace?” they ask.
“It just grew there by itself, stupid!” they say.
Others say the palace is only an illusion.
Some echo your cry, “But it’s right there in front of you, can’t you see it?” But they either cannot, or they refuse to. And you—the King—will not force them, but only leave the invitation open, and encourage those with you to continue inviting the rest.

Are you “leaving the burden of proof to your followers,” or are you only asking them to participate in your standing invitation to all?

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