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Teacher accused of sex with 8th grader says she's the victim

A former middle school teacher is on trial for sexual activity with a student.

Justine Nelson, 33, is facing two felony counts -- one for sex acts with a boy when he was 13 and one for sex acts when he was 14.

Nelson admits to committing sexual acts on an 8th grader, but she's admitting to no crime.

"You can't find someone guilty if they're mentally or physically coerced to do something," said her defense attorney Roger Nuttall.

He says Nelson finally gave up and sent nude photos and engaged in sexual activity with the boy after repeated threats to expose their close relationship.

"She wasn't the aggressor," Nuttall said. "He was the aggressor."

He highlighted testimony from a psychologist who said the former teacher isn't a sexual predator, so he told the jury the boy was the real predator.

From prosecutor Liz Owen's perspective, Nelson was supposed to be the grownup in the situation.

"Mr. Nuttall wants you to believe the 13- and 14-year-old eighth grader had all the power," she said. "Please. He was scared to death to tell what was happening."

The boy's age is a point of contention, and an important one because it could be the difference between eight years in prison or three.

He testified he was 13 when the sexual activity started and 14 when it happened for the last time.

But Nuttall called the boy a liar who changed his story -- from saying it happened three times, starting when he was 13, to saying it happened dozens of times, mostly when he was 13 -- all to make money in a civil lawsuit.

Owen says the boy has consistently said it happened when he was 13 and when he was 14.

And she says what Nuttall seems to call threats is just a persistent thread of sexual conversations and photos and talk about her giving him money or clothes, but making sure his mother and her husband didn't find out.

"They want you to believe she had to do this, she had to orally copulate him because he was threatening her," she said. "There's no evidence of a threat. He never said if you don't give me these shoes I'm going to reveal this."

Nelson's teacher's credential was suspended after her arrest in 2016 and the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing revoked it in January of this year.

The jury in her felony case started deliberations late Monday afternoon.

Justine Nelson, Roger Nuttall, ABC13 Houston 12 Comments [4/10/2019 2:14:44 AM]
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Thanos6

Her story is really stupid. If they hadn't had sex, then what "close relationship" would there be that he could blackmail her with?

4/10/2019 2:50:17 AM

Glandu

We lack elements. It's always possible for a young person to be an aggressor.

But the argument is stupid "she does not have the profile of an aggressor, therefore he is the aggressor" makes absolutely no sense.

4/10/2019 9:08:15 AM

JeanP

Should Mrs. Nelson considers suing her lawyer Nuttall for incompetence?

4/10/2019 11:02:08 AM

Chloe

I have no sympathy for her.

4/10/2019 1:07:16 PM

Passerby

Thanos6 has a point. The claim doesn't pass the smell test.

4/10/2019 7:04:33 PM

Zinnia

"If you don't have sex with me, I'll claim you raped me" is a thing which happens in poorly written plots. I don't know if anyone tries that in real life, but given the political climate on rape, you'd have to be stupid to think that would work, and your victim would have to be extra stupid to fall for it. I do know that you can blackmail someone which you have no actual incriminating evidence against by threatening to manufacture some (source: kids doing this to each other during my childhood) but that's a really weak and unreliable position to work from.

So in the extremely unlikely chance it's true that he's the "aggressor", at best she's still a profound idiot who shouldn't be working with kids. Or with anyone really, at least not without supervision.

4/10/2019 8:35:08 PM

Dizzy Dream

I think I need to go bash my head against a wall. Maybe then I'll be stupid enough to believe this 'defence.'

4/11/2019 6:55:27 AM

Doubting Thomas

Nelson admits to committing sexual acts on an 8th grader, but she's admitting to no crime.


She just did admit to a crime. Doesn't matter if the kid begged for it, she as an adult should have known better than to engage in sex with a 13-year-old kid under her tutelage.

He says Nelson finally gave up and sent nude photos and engaged in sexual activity with the boy after repeated threats to expose their close relationship.


The proper thing to do would have been to bring it to the attention of the principal and superintendent. The idea of "I had to have sex with him!" is laughable and stupid.

4/12/2019 7:32:04 AM

Caamib

This woman should be immediately released and given a medal for being nice to teenage boys. It's an outrage that she's being held criminally liable. That boy could only benefit from the event (before the scum legal system started harassing them both).

4/12/2019 10:28:47 AM

Caamib

^ This is an imposter.
Everyone here knows I would never offer a woman a medal. Medals are for men, you fucking libcucks.

4/12/2019 5:20:08 PM

Caamib

I have decided to pursue my true passion and create an entirely incel boyband called Brotherhood of the Blue Balls. I'm the bad boy, Zyrros is the pretty boy, and rich ripped and incel is the troubled one. Though really...aren't we all the troubled one?

We're performing our first solo in Croatia called "Love Is A Bad Game".

4/12/2019 6:05:28 PM

caamib

Somehow, I'm vaccinated from humor.

Here's what you need to know:
1) I oppose masturbation with all of my being
2) To me consensual sex would be a source of great shame, not some pride
3) Rape would be a source of pride. I even made up an excuse to justify this.

The question is: considering the above, why would anyone want to listen to me or be with me? Why am I even still here, wasting everyone's oxygen? The mind boggles.

4/14/2019 11:48:09 AM

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