Quote# 14518

[on why God had to have written the Bible]

But think about it, who is smart enough to write the Holy Bible? The answer, no one.

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How could people back then have written words with such intellegence? We were not very educated back then, we all know. So tell me, how could people back ages ago could have written the bible?

*~Dagger Trepe~*, Eyes on Final Fantasy 88 Comments [9/4/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Phil

Words fail me.

Besides, the Bible's not so crash hot. Riddled with inconsistencies and internal contradictions, rampant plagiarism, boooooring, and at times the equivalent of modern B-movie horror trash (Old Testament) and idiotic new-age wank (New Testament).

If your God wrote it, he's a hack.

9/4/2006 11:31:42 PM

Sandman

How could people back then have written words with such intellegence? We were not very educated back then, we all know....



Someone needs to do a bit of reading in the classical thought section... Aristophenes... Socrates... Plato... any one of dozens of people thousands of years ago were more than smart enough. Pythagoras figured out the basics of physical geometry 5 centuries before Jesus was even a glimmer in the Holy Spirit's eye. And, frankly, Pythagoras is somewhat of a philosophical lightweight compared to others of the times.

9/4/2006 11:35:05 PM

Napoleon the Clown

Well, you managed to log onto the internet, so nothing is truly impossible.

9/4/2006 11:45:33 PM

Jocelyn

So.. is he saying that God just wrote the bible and made up everything that Jesus said and did? People have been writing for millions of years. Cavemen drew pictures on cave walls. If the apostles and co. were too stupid to write, how did they get enough intelligence to even talk to each other?

9/4/2006 11:47:46 PM

xplicit_UK

\"We were not very educated back then\"

You aren't very educated right now, Dagger.

If you had read any books other than \"My Pet Goat\" and ... well, this one, you'd know that the bible is fair to middling at best in terms of its difficulty to read and scope of topics.

There are a lot of other texts from the same era that are much more profound, and more intelligently written. You can actually read many of them online for free. Check out Project Gutenberg, mate. Or visit your local library.

9/4/2006 11:57:33 PM

ProperJob

Methinks you need to read more classical literature. The Bible is like a pulp romance novel compared to other works.

9/5/2006 12:00:25 AM

WritingIsMyReligion

Let's see....They put pen to paper, and write?


9/5/2006 12:13:12 AM

Amos

1. People generally wrote with the backdrop [please distinguish this from the fansical tales placed in that backdrop] of what was going on immediately around them. That wasn't true for everyone, but for the most part the writers didn't need to be experts in history or faraway lands.

2. Quite a bit is from other sources. Sayings of wise men, stories passed on and changed for thousands of years; apparently there's even a little Eastern philosophy in the NT. Taking this into consideration, there may be many thousands of \"writers\" to the Bible, conceiving of and polishing the material long before the book was written.

3. Some writers didn't write with such intelligence. Each has his own personality and human traits clearly visible through the text.

4. People weren't any more dumb than they are now and many were educated.

5. There is no incredible verifiable revelation in the Bible, such as a scientific fact not known at the time. There are, if you read literally, quite a few that are simply wrong. A very human artifact.

9/5/2006 12:53:37 AM

Old Viking

I find the Bible particularly useful as a science text.

9/5/2006 1:00:10 AM

Tdevil

You want the absolute truth? People back then had what was called the bicameral (animal) brain. People had just recently developed language, and animal instinct was still very powerful in humans. Just as a deer jumps up and runs at sense of danger, so did humans. BUT, since language was new the people's instinct came to them in the form of a POWERFUL VERBAL COMMAND. Hence, \"god\" was discovered. There were a select few that were smarter back then who noticed people were gullible and took advantage of them. Thus politics and religion were born! Damn, times haven't changed much I see!

9/5/2006 1:09:18 AM

Papabear

\"But think about it, who is smart enough to write the Holy Bible? The answer, no one.\"

OK, I've thought about it... again. I think that most barely competent, lack-luster hacks could have written the Bible. I'm awfully tired of this lame assertion that is often made in favor of the Bible, that it is \"great literature.\" It is not. Every once in a while there is a Bible passage that is beautiful, but most of the Bible is poorly written crap. Translation after translation appear, but none is a very good read.

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\"How could people back then have written words with such intellegence?\"

Which words would those be? The two equally ridiculous creation stories? The silly Noah's ark saga? The story of \"God's\" cruel torment of Job? Smashing little children against the rocks? Moses and his pals practicing genocide and saving the female children for their own sexual uses? The whale/fish barfing Jonah onto the beach? Jesus/God creating hell?


\"We were not very educated back then, we all know. So tell me, how could people back ages ago could have written the bible?\"

Most of the people of that era were uneducated, but some could write, dipshit.

9/5/2006 1:21:03 AM

Coffee

The general level of education was not as high as it is today, true, but some people were very well educated, and extremely intelligent.

Personally, I enjoy Greek plays and literature, and they totally kick the ass of the Babble.

9/5/2006 1:59:24 AM

John

We were not very educated back then, we all know. So tell me, how could people back ages ago could have written the bible?

The same sort of people wrote the Gilgamesh epic, parts of which probably were written hundreds of years before the oldest parts of the Bible.

9/5/2006 2:12:36 AM

Star Cluster

You would thaink that if it was written by Gawd himself, he could have at least gotten the details right and could at least remember what he had written from one book to the next so as not to be so contradictory.

9/5/2006 2:16:43 AM

Julian

That's exactly why we know the bible's written by people - it's a pack of superstitious, violent, mysogynistic, inaccurate, impossible shit and it provides a clear window into the rubbish they used to think back then.

One day when your education transcends that of some ignorant goat fuckers at the dawn of history, you'll understand. (Maybe you'll even understand that history only covers the last 0.0001% of Earth's existence.)

9/5/2006 2:17:06 AM

Mister Spak

\"We were not very educated back then, we all know. So tell me, how could people back ages ago could have written the bible?\"

You answered your own question.

9/5/2006 2:20:15 AM

Libkitten

You underestimate mankind. And the Bible isn't all that well-written, not to mention it's been REwritten several times in the last millenium.

9/5/2006 2:33:33 AM

Crosis

But think about it, who is smart enough to write the Holy Bible?


Well, let's see ... I could name half a dozen fantasy series of reasonable length with more internal consistency than the Bible.

9/5/2006 2:41:47 AM

JadedRevenge

Some people where VERY smart \"back then\". Just the writers of the bible where not.

9/5/2006 4:23:19 AM

David D.G.

Are you kidding? The Bible didn't even get a decent editing -- and if it had been written by God, it wouldn't even have needed one!


~David D.G.

9/5/2006 4:42:28 AM

Scott

I could have written the Bible while drunk enough to not recognize my own name.

In fact, that would explain a lot.

9/5/2006 5:14:50 AM

Redhunter

Smart enough? Which parts, where he plagerizes, repeats facts, omit facts, or cherry-picks details? Is it the suspension of belief, inconsistant writing, baseless subplots, unanswered questions about various charectors, authors writing about their own deaths, cobbled together prophesies, clashes with reality, ignorance of science and physics? Was it the way god wrote the book so slyly that no one else in the world has knowledge of these minor charectors in world history? Because the scope of the bible is a small percent of the planet? The ignorance of other races? Of dinosaurs?

If you believe the bible to be intelligent, I guess that answers my question. Your sights aren't set very high.

9/5/2006 7:30:51 AM

Matilde

A group of scribbles trained since childhood compiling texts transmitted mouth to mouth since the Bronze age OR before?

9/5/2006 9:30:03 AM

Wolf O'Donnell (SWHQ)

You weren't very educated back then? Wow. I didn't know you were that old... or that stupid.

9/5/2006 12:05:54 PM

Kelian

\"People back then\" not only wrote with intelligence and insight, but they did it without the wealth of readily available information that we have today. The bible was written in pieces by many very human writers. A very human council decided which books would be included as canon.

Please go to the library and check out a copy of Norton's Anthology of Literature or any similar anthology.

Now, don't speak, or type, again until you have read the Classical Greek and Roman selections thoroughly.

Thank you.

9/5/2006 10:31:18 PM

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