Three words: Library of Alexandria.
Europeans burned it, the greatest collection of knowledge in the Western world. Where did we recover the information from? The Persians (who are now Middle Easterners). While The West was busy demolishing itself into the Dark Ages, civilization flourished in the Middle East. Give up on the racism, or at least know what the fuck you're talking about.
9/7/2006 2:50:11 AM
yeah, that was a thousand years ago, Hadanelith. What have the Muslims done LATELY?
9/7/2006 2:53:36 AM
Is \"Ay-rab\" supposed to be some sort of insult?
9/7/2006 3:01:02 AM
Napoleon the Clown
Go fuck a fense, Doc.
9/7/2006 3:03:17 AM
Didn't Arabs create our modern number system?
9/7/2006 3:07:14 AM
The Ay-rabs are incapable of civilized behavior, and their demonic religion justifies their barbarianism. What civilization exists in the middle east was brought there by the Jews and the western nations. Left to themselves, the Ay-rabs would be living in tents, riding camels and murdering whoever won't kiss their asses. And if the Jews and the west pulled out, the veneer of civilization would be stripped away in a heartbeat.
The world's first true civilization was born in ancient Sumeria, now known as Iraq. Sumerians are credited with inventing the wheel, astronomy, arithmetic, legal and judicial systems, time systems, and organized military formations. In many ways, this single culture enlightened modern Western society, not the other way around.
This is just an example, by the way.
9/7/2006 3:10:01 AM
\"The Ay-rabs are incapable of civilsed behaviour [...] Left to themselves the Ay-rabs would be living in tents, riding camels [...]\"
... the Hindu-Arabic numeral system with non-Roman numerals and the Zero value, algebra, geometry, astronomy, geography, music...
... of course, I guess all y'all Religious F-yundies and J-yews don't need all them confusin' numbers, do y'now?
9/7/2006 3:15:36 AM
yes because christianity showed they are so much better than islam by killing all the muslims in spain.
what a racist jackass
9/7/2006 4:47:32 AM
Yep - love the crusades - let's rock up, steal their technologies, kill them all and call them savage barbarians.
When they retake their cities, they spare the crusaders, only for the crusaders to retake the cities and kill them all again.
Not even going to talk about Beziers.
Or the fact that the Middle East USED to be known as the fertile crescent until silly passages in religious texts forbidding crop rotation turned it into a fucking desert - yes, I'm talking about Leviticus, not the Koran!
Israel is also a godforsaken shithole - it is not self sufficient, it is not self sustainable, the mass migration of Zionists in the 50's overpopulated the place and it'd collapse in a second without foreign aid. You really need to look at footage of Baghdad in the 50's too. It was extremely civilised and prosperous and green and full of infrastructure with wide roads and trams. Of course you had to meddle trying to get Saddam in to power and then use him against Iran, and it was all downhill from the 50's.
9/7/2006 5:00:42 AM
[Quote: \"It wasn't an uninhabited place before the Jews arived.\"]And it wasn't a developed place until the Jews arrived.You're a lying sack of shit Dr Doom, and obviously have never been to Jerusalem, let alone seen pictures of the Al-aqsa mosque.It took a 20th-century culture to turn an utter wasteland into a productive nation.yeh right! I wanna go live in East Jerusalem...And it wasn't the goat-rapers that did it. They had no interest in \"Palestine\" until the Jews reclaimed the land, and then ... \"Hey, look at that! It's fertile! Praise Allah! It's OURS! KILL THE JEWS!Your lies aren't even inventive, let alone amusingWe've seen what those ignorant, destructive savages do when given a productive land. If they DID kill all the Jews and take over Israel, within a year they would utterly destroy it.Riiiiight! Take a tour round Dubai in the United ARAB Emirates:http://realestate.theemiratesnetwork.com/developments/dubai/index_palm.phpThe Ay-rabs are incapable of civilized behavior, and their demonic religion justifies their barbarianism.It's your insane \"God\" too there Buckwheat! What civilization exists in the middle east was brought there by the Jews and the western nations. Left to themselves, the Ay-rabs would be living in tents, riding camels and murdering whoever won't kiss their asses. And if the Jews and the west pulled out, the veneer of civilization would be stripped away in a heartbeat.I'm just going to laugh at your stupidity now!The middle east is a potential garden spot. All it needs is an Orkin Man Brigade to purge the region of its infestation of burnoosed parasites.\"No wait, maybe I'll cry over it!
9/7/2006 5:15:34 AM
mr. fantastic mad dog
Originally posted by Dr. Doom
They had no interest in \"Palestine\" until the Jews reclaimed the land, and then ... \"Hey, look at that! It's fertile! Praise Allah! It's OURS! KILL THE JEWS!
The Zionist Jews stole Palestine and kicked out the citizens to put their own people in with the help of the United States, making the USA violate its own establishment clause by supporting Zionist Judaism against Islam.
9/7/2006 5:44:16 AM
Left to themselves, the Ay-rabs would be living in tents, riding camels
So? What's wrong with that? The main problem with a lot of \"poor\" countries is that they were jump started into \"western\" standards without developing many of the basics themselves.
People in Africa wouldn't starve quite as often if they were still living as hunter gatherers instead of trying to be western. They would have enough fd if they planted actual crops, instead of producing tabacco for export.
9/7/2006 6:44:03 AM
Although DD isn't usually worth wasting time on I will point out that a good deal of the OT is 'god's people' marching to the promised land and eradicating tribes/races of folks who were in the way. There were people living there first until god's plan was brought into effect.
And the Orkin Man reference so reminds me of Pat Robertson refering to, well, basically members of every OTHER religion as \"cockroaches\". How 'bout we nominate this one for Pat Robertson's quote and call it the \"Godly Fumigation Award\"?
9/7/2006 7:31:17 AM
Wolf O'Donnell (SWHQ)
Napoleon the Clown said:
\"Go fuck a fense, Doc.\"
Preferably, an electric one.
9/7/2006 10:27:25 AM
This guy needs psychiatric help. Did he EVER realize how so many basic things of the world are Arabic? Many of the arts, algebra...
9/7/2006 10:48:14 AM
You forget that it were the Arabs who kept this land fertile and sacred for the three religions for 6 generations and that some Crusaders made a butchery because of that, you ignorant.
9/7/2006 1:44:02 PM
\"This guy needs psychiatric help. Did he EVER realize how so many basic things of the world are Arabic? Many of the arts, algebra\"
how many fundies would even know what algebra is?
9/7/2006 1:50:51 PM
Where has this guy been? I've missed him.
Y'know, as incredibly depressing as it is to realize that people with this kind of outlook exist, there is some comfort to be had in (in-)stability.
9/7/2006 5:18:37 PM
Cousin Ted: No.
It was developed by hindu indians. The arabs picked it up when they invaded India.
9/8/2006 3:00:41 AM
We've seen what those ignorant, destructive savages do when given a productive land.
Yes. Yes we have.
<looks pointedly at Doctor Doom>
...wait, which group of ignorant, destructive savages were you
9/11/2006 8:32:08 PM
It will be a great day when the USA stops wasting taxpayer dollars to support the jewish theocracy, and let the muslim savages take their land back.
9/17/2006 4:20:07 PM
Why give the country to either group? Both are guilty of atrocious crimes against humanity, both are so stupid to be fighting people in the same fucking family (Isaac and Ishmael have the same dad, so they're both blood relatives), and since the war has completely destroyed the agriculture in Israel who would want it anyway?! Sure it's the joint between 3 major continents, but both the Palestinians and Israelis are such small minorities compared to the world population that neither of them would be able to gain control of those continents anyway, so I ask you once again What Is The Fucking Big Deal?!
Too bad Christ turned his back on Jerusalem or else the Christians would be able to put their foot into the pool too!
9/19/2006 6:44:33 PM
Actually, Israel was forcibly placed there via foreign meddling. The mess in Iraq began when the US placed Saddam in power. Christians should have just left them the hell alone, or even learned from them, instead of attacking them in the Crusades.
Of course, you can't comprehend anything more complex than \"Us versus Them. Us Good. Them Bad.\" Please anally pleasure yourself with a salad shooter.
10/10/2006 7:28:33 AM
I'm not even going to bother with the entire post, but I'll address some things that have come up in the comments as well.
1) The most advanced societies in the world were in the Middle East. The crusades ended that and started most of the conflicts that continued on till recent times. Europeans got their sciences from the crusades, arabs got multi-generational conflict.
2) The Israelis were PLACED in the location they are currently in. The united western powers gave the land to the Jewish without consulting either Jews or the people who lived there.
3) #2 resulted in a major missunderstanding, the locals blamed the Jewish settlers who were forced to settle in the region, thus spawning the conflict that is only now finally being resolved due to Israelis helping moderate Islamic governments and brokering peace with militant groups.
If you actually understand the dynamics of the region, you'll realize neither the Jews nor the indigenous peoples are savages, just people forced into a horrible situation due to western ignorance.
And given that the U.S. is was the key player in all the conflicts in that region (deciding where Israel was to be located, supplying Saddam with weapons, money, and WMDs, supplying the people Saddam then attacked (with American permission) with weapons and funds, telling people they'd get American military support if they rebelled then sitting back and letting the people get slaughtered, etc.).
Nobody has ANY excuse to be a raging anti-Semite or call anyone in the region a savage. Learn your dang history, those of you who apply to either of those categories!
8/4/2007 2:04:09 PM
Of course, why bother learning history when you could wallow in self-righteous, bigoted garbage instead, Doctor Drivel?
9/24/2007 8:00:02 PM