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Thinking Biblically about the appendix

Let’s assume that modern science knew of no function for the appendix. Would that show it was a useless left-over from our past evolution from the animals? Not at all. There would be at least two other possibilities, when our thinking is based upon the Bible:
It had a created function in people originally, but as a result of the Curse (consequent upon Adam’s sin) on all creation, humanity has degenerated. Thus, our body has lost some functions which it once had. Evolution requires a gain in information—new structures, new functions.
It has a created function, but we don’t know what it is yet.

Jonathon TH, CARM 23 Comments [12/23/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Patches

Um, evolution is not a purely additive process, merely a change for the better. And sometimes getting rid of an obsolete piece of equipment that's just using up space and energy is indeed a change for the better.

12/24/2006 2:59:14 AM

KillWhitey

and exactly where in the bible does it say \"and lo the lord smote adam's appendix for it caused him to do the work of satan\"?

12/24/2006 3:12:26 AM

Adrian

There is no evidence that people were more sophisticated in the past, so your arguement already fails to deliver.

12/24/2006 3:15:11 AM

anevilmeme

Isn't \"thinking\" and \"based upon the Bible\" a contradiction?

12/24/2006 4:02:16 AM

Papabear

\"Thinking Biblically about the appendix\"

\"Thinking Biblically\" is oxymoronic.


\"Let’s assume that modern science knew of no function for the appendix. Would that show it was a useless left-over from our past evolution from the animals?\"

That is probably the most likely explanation, though it is not proof.


\"Not at all. There would be at least two other possibilities, when our thinking is based upon the Bible:\"

There you go again trying to couple thinking and the contentions of the Bible authors.


\"It had a created function in people originally, but as a result of the Curse (consequent upon Adam’s sin) on all creation, humanity has degenerated. Thus, our body has lost some functions which it once had.\"

In order for that to be considered seriously, you will have to show that God exists, God created humans and that original sin exists.


\"Evolution requires a gain in information—new structures, new functions.\"

OK, so what?


\"It has a created function, but we don’t know what it is yet.\"

What would that created function be, to painfully kill innocent people for thousands and thousands of years until the advent of safe, abdominal surgery? What a great idea. Go God!

12/24/2006 4:07:43 AM

ND

So, in otherwords we evolved because some naked chick ate an apple?

12/24/2006 4:26:41 AM

The Jamo

When you use bronze-age religious texts to do science then it's no wonder why you get bullshit results.

12/24/2006 5:30:09 AM

The Watcher

Not at all. There would be at least two other possibilities, when our thinking is based upon the Bible:

Why, that's ingenious! Doing science whe your thinking is based on the Bible!

How many possibilities are there if I were to, let's say, repair a car based on Rachel Ray's cookbook?

12/24/2006 5:46:15 AM

Napoleon the Clown

Prove that the appendix stopped working after the Fall. But first prove there was a Fall in the first place.

12/24/2006 5:49:54 AM

Tiny Bulcher

I never knew the Bible had an appendix! What does it say, 'please ignore previous 1,800 pages'?

Wait, what?

12/24/2006 10:04:01 AM

Adrian

As someone who nearly died because of an appendicitis gone critical, I volunteer to administrate the assault and cluebattery this idiot so deserves.


12/24/2006 12:12:23 PM

Prince Macho Belly

It has a created function, but we don’t know what it is yet.

Like your brain, right?

12/24/2006 3:02:06 PM

Secret Agent Infiltrating CARM

This guy is the most annoying, stuck-up person ever on those boards.

12/24/2006 3:56:57 PM

Matilde

Thinking Biblically, in which part of the Bible do they mention the appendix?. I mean, thinking biblically, we were all aliens before the fall in order to understand what the seminomads who write the book didn´t know.

12/24/2006 5:49:29 PM

Ereshkigal

I wonder what Jonathan thinks the \"created function\" of the appendix was supposed to be. Maybe if it hadn't degenerated, we would all have been able to fly and shoot laser beams out of our eyes!

12/24/2006 5:56:44 PM

Random Guy

A general rule in young-earth creationism that I've noticed:

\"If something is inconsistent in biology, blame the Fall. If something is inconsistent in geology, blame the Flood.\"

12/24/2006 6:14:08 PM

Old Viking

\"Thinking Biblically about the appendix\"

Sorry, you lost me right about there.

12/24/2006 10:10:45 PM

Tim Wilkins

This post was made in reference to a challenge when the same poster stated categorically that \"all human organs have a function\"... apparently \"we don't know what its function is or its function was lost in the fall\" = has a function.

With logic like this, who needs the Aristotelian model?

12/24/2006 10:21:23 PM

MILF-chan

[Morbo]EVOLUTION DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY[/Morbo]

12/26/2006 3:21:34 AM

Mister Spak

\"There would be at least two other possibilities, when our thinking is based upon the Bible:\"

And there is the source of all your problems.


12/26/2006 12:52:29 PM

John

Did God smite the chimpanzee's appendix at the same time? Because it appears that the more distantly related a primate is to us, the larger its caecum and the smaller its appendix.

12/26/2006 4:18:15 PM

Redhunter

That's where the soul is located! Evil people, the one's who are going to hell because of something extraordinarily heinous, like 'gaying it up' or blaspheming the lord get their souls taken by the devil and all that is left behind is festering disease deposited by satan's filthy claw. So; appendicitis = hellbound sinner.

12/27/2006 8:49:33 AM

Kanna

Evolution doesn't require a "gain" of information. Losing unnecessary parts or functions is still evolution.

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