[Regarding courtship]
[I have a question, in all these situations it seems assumed that the man makes the first move or hears from God (in new-manna's post). Is it, in your respected circles where this takes place, acceptable or customary for the woman involved to make the first move? I do not know much about this practice and I'm just curious as to what ya'll and those in your churches or communities think and believe.]
NO. The girl is not to make the first move. It is the guy's responsibility to seek the will of the girls father.
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So, the girl can't make ANY moves, because only the guy can make the first move, and all he can do is talk to the girl's father. Why? Is he supposed to date the dad first, so he can judge the boy's "skills" for himself?
~David D.G.
So, the girl can't make ANY moves, because only the guy can make the first move, and all he can do is talk to the girl's father. Why? Is he supposed to date the dad first, so he can judge the boy's "skills" for himself?
~David D.G.
No, he's supposed to purchase the daughter from the dad.
It is the guy's responsibility to seek the will of the girls father
And if the father approves, to give him two goats (or the equivalent purchase price for virgins) and sacrifice a dove in the temple. Or, if the father doesn't approve, rape you and give dad the purchase price for virgins anyway.
Because, you know, the girl is retarded, or what?. Or just because her opinion is not relevant?, and what if the girl is fatherless, because her mother is a widow?
Because, you know, the girl is retarded, or what?. Or just because her opinion is not relevant?, and what if the girl is fatherless, because her mother is a widow?
A widow is supposed to marry her dead husband's brother.
I don't have a daughter, but if i did, I believe I would counsel my daughter against a boy who came to me first concerning his desire for her attentions. He might have good intentions, but he would be a lame-brain. Of course, I have to believe any daughter of mine would probably kick his ass and send him packing anyway.
When, with any luck, her father will knock him on his ass and tell him to join us in this century. My last relationship started when she asked me out, and it was quite successful for the most part.
Now I´m thinking, she can´t make the first move because her feelings don´t count. It´s always the man´s need, being them her father´s or the potential suitor´s, not hers.
Actually, this is great. It means I will never accidentally end up going out with one of Bro. Randy's lobotomized zombies, because I would be forced to laugh in the face of anyone who approached my father about going out with me.
But, I suspect I wouldn't be laughing nearly as hard as my dad.
@ BurntBush - Isn't 50 sheckels the going price?
Deuteronomy 22.28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [c] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
A Shekel was meant to be the lowest form of currency back in its day, something everybody would have/be able to afford. I've heard from some Christians following certain traditions that Shekel=Pennies. After all, they are the lowest form of currency.
A Shekel was meant to be the lowest form of currency back in its day, something everybody would have/be able to afford. I've heard from some Christians following certain traditions that Shekel=Pennies. After all, they are the lowest form of currency.
Then you heard wrong. Since it was some Christians that told you this, I'm not surprised.
The Shekel was a unit of weight that was defined somewhat differently depending on what it was you were weighing. When used to weigh silver, as for coinage, one Shekel weighed somewhere between 8 and 18 grams (depending on which source you believe).
This is actually a rather substantial amount of silver. When U.S. quarters were still made out of silver, they only contained about 7.6 grams of silver. A silver Shekel coin would have been more like a quarter or a half-dollar than a penny -- and that was back when a quarter or a half-dollar was really worth something.
"When I buy my wife, at first her vahgin work well, she cook good, she strong on plow, but after 3 years when she was 15, she grow much hair on chest, her voice become very deep 'BORAT! BORAT!' and her vahgin start to hang loose like sleeve of wizard."
bro randy-4-teens stikes again
i propose a "continuous stupidity" award
or a special tag that warns of bro randy's stupidity
Always amusing when someone asks a fundamentalist a question like this.
The question's usually - so, should I do (a) or (b)?
The fundamentalist response tends to be: Heck no, what are ya, a pinko? Your question is sinful. Go for (j) with a solid helping of misogynism and a spanking.
Because after all, a christian woman is property, and exists only to breed and cook food. Oh, and keep the house clean.
It is considered implite for a woman to walk up to a man and say "how long is your dick, wanna fuck" especially if she is carrying a ruler. Asking for shoe size or measuring his hand is the same.
However , walking up to a man , and saying Hi I am (insert name here) do you come here often ? is perfectly fine.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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