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I can see why atheists focus on God's wrath so much. They have the most to fear from it.

So do atheists really think that the more they call God a monster, a tyrant, cruel, evil, and immoral that that's going to manipulate God into changing his mind? Why do they think that slander and criticism will ever help them in any circumstance? Or do they just plain don't think?

So yes guys, God does destroy those who treat him and his creation with contempt. He does punish those who are arrogant enough to think they deserve the best that God has to offer without acknowledging him. And calling him name after name after name won't change that one bit.

But he also gives us a free pardon and our whole lives to acknowledge him. So why do atheists criticize him and reject his free pardon? Whose fault is that? Is anything ever the fault of atheists on their own eyes? No.

So since atheists aren't honest or intelligent enough to know why it's not wise to bite the hand that feeds them, then they'll have to learn by experience just how unwise that is.

So calling him evil, a monster, a tyrant, cruel, evil, unjust,and cursing his name and his creation will only seal your fate even more. After all the quotes that atheists use in the bible talking about what "atrocities' God does to those who disobey Him, they, of all people, should have learned by now what happens to those who continually mock him. But they haven't learned one thing. Unbelievable.

Carico, CARM 46 Comments [3/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Wolight

We're calling him a tyrant to expose how flawed the bible is, thus meaning untrue.

3/3/2007 2:27:27 PM

anevilmeme

\"I can see why atheists focus on God's wrath so much.\"

No atheists don't. However we do enjoy making fun of fundies obsession with God's wrath as your obsession tells us a lot about how full of hate, anger and fear fundies really are.

3/3/2007 2:33:27 PM

John

So do atheists really think that the more they call God a monster, a tyrant, cruel, evil, and immoral that that's going to manipulate God into changing his mind?

Atheists don't believe God exists. What they call a monster is the fictitious character described in the Bible. They're not trying to \"manipulate God into changing his mind\", since they don't think he exists. They're trying to point out the inconsistency of claiming to take moral values from a character who occasionally did awful things for what appears to be very bad and unfair reasons.

3/3/2007 2:47:14 PM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

I'll mock you pissy, fictitious god whenever I want to, and there ain't a damn thing you can say that will scare me into believing you.

3/3/2007 2:50:38 PM

Doctor Whom

So do atheists really think that the more they call God a monster, a tyrant, cruel, evil, and immoral that that's going to manipulate God into changing his mind? Why do they think that slander and criticism will ever help them in any circumstance? Or do they just plain don't think?
Yeah, stop trying to manipulate the Tooth Fairy into changing her mind.

After all the quotes that atheists use in the bible talking about what \"atrocities' God does to those who disobey Him, they, of all people, should have learned by now what happens to those who continually mock him.
I'll call your bluff. Give real-world examples (not Bible examples) of what happens to those who continually mock God.

3/3/2007 2:59:09 PM

Broken Egg

Carico, you really shouldn't be insulting peoples' intelligence.

3/3/2007 3:04:07 PM

Zadic

You need to stop trying to be an authority on what others think. Thus far you've been doing an awful job at it.

3/3/2007 3:26:48 PM

Jonathan

Atheists fear god and try to manipulate him?

I fear god's wrath no more than I fear Zeus, Odin, Ra or Quetzalcoatl's wrath.

3/3/2007 3:50:50 PM

BurntBush

Any god who would have you as his representative could not be real. A real god would have smited a lying nasty cunt long ago.

3/3/2007 4:35:55 PM

Viridian

I'm afraid you've got things a bit backward. You see, Carico, the thing about atheists is that they don't have any reason to fear God's wrath.

Perhaps you'd understand it better if I put it this way: If you believe that there is a monster under your bed, then you'll probably be afraid to even peek down there at night. If you don't believe in a monster under the bed, then you probably wouldn't mind looking or even crawling under the bed, except maybe if you've got dust allergies.

You see, when it comes to fear, it's not a matter of what is or isn't true, but what people do or don't believe. So any theory based on the prospect that \"atheists act like they do because they fear God\" is flawed... they can't very easily fear something they don't believe in.

3/3/2007 4:50:09 PM

Vyoma

But I have learned what happens to those who mock God.

Nothing.

At least, nothing any different from those who don't. And nothing any different from what happens to those who mock Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy, for that matter.

Y'all can't see me right now, but I'm doing my best to re-enact the stoning scene from The Life of Brian at the moment (Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!)

Here's my wager; if I do this for the next 15 minutes, I'll be in the same shape afterward that I was before, and more or less the same tomorrow as I am today.

And that's what happens to those who mock Jehovah.

Nothing
at
all.

3/3/2007 4:53:39 PM

Papabear

\"I can see why atheists focus on God's wrath so much. They have the most to fear from it.\"

How many times must you Fundies be told this? We do not fear your imaginary friend. We are not afraid of your genocidal, misogynistic, vain, petty mass-murdering God because he is a ficional character.


\"So do atheists really think that the more they call God a monster, a tyrant, cruel, evil, and immoral that that's going to manipulate God into changing his mind?\"

Of course not. Your imaginary deity has not mind for us to change.


\"Why do they think that slander and criticism will ever help them in any circumstance?\"

Criticism might help the deluded to see the errors of the ways, but mostly the criticism is just fun.

Our criticism is not slander if it's true.



\"Or do they just plain don't think?\"

I don't believe a rabid Fundie such as you should be accusing others of not thinking.


\"So yes guys, God does destroy those who treat him and his creation with contempt.\"

Prove it. I'll be happy to believe any weird story you might come up with if you'll supply credible evidence supporting it.


\"He does punish those who are arrogant enough to think they deserve the best that God has to offer without acknowledging him.\"

But then, none of us atheists think that. As God does not exist, no one can have any dealings with him, nor can he offer anyone anything.


\"And calling him name after name after name won't change that one bit.\"

But sometimes calling you illusion of a God names is just too much fun to resist.


\"But he also gives us a free pardon and our whole lives to acknowledge him.\"

Even if your God exists and you vision of Xianity were true, the pardon is far from free. One must give up behaviors one might enjoy and feed his ego.


\"So why do atheists criticize him and reject his free pardon?\"

Pay attention. We understand that God is an imaginary being. We reject \"his free pardon\" because he doesn't exist. We reject all offers supposedly made by beings who do not exist.

Our criticism is of religious dogmas and those who believe in them, not of your fictional God character directly.



\"Whose fault is that?\"

There is no fault in rejecting that which des not exist.


\"Is anything ever the fault of atheists on their own eyes? No.\"

No, atheists, as all other people, are at fault for those things which they have done wrong. Not believing in the non-existant is not wrong.


\"So since atheists aren't honest or intelligent enough to know why it's not wise to bite the hand that feeds them, then they'll have to learn by experience just how unwise that is.\"

You have not shown atheists to be dishonest, nor stupid. Thinking that you have really shows that you are dishonest and/or stupid.

Before you start this or a similar assertion again, you should prove that God exists. Until you do that, you're just another mental vapor-weight, spinning her wheels and annoying the bright people.



\"So calling him evil, a monster, a tyrant, cruel, evil, unjust,and cursing his name and his creation will only seal your fate even more.\"

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Prove it.


\"After all the quotes that atheists use in the bible talking about what \"atrocities' God does to those who disobey Him, they, of all people, should have learned by now what happens to those who continually mock him.\"

Those disobedient, mocking persons would include all toddlers and infants who were supposedly drowned in the biblical flood?


\"But they haven't learned one thing. Unbelievable.\"

You're persistent stupidity is \"unbelievable.\"

3/3/2007 5:04:18 PM

√ėyvind

Look up \"negative atheism\" on Wikipedia. Atheists don't believe in God. It's really that damned simple.

3/3/2007 5:11:23 PM

Burning Stake

I'll tell you what I find unbelievable. . .

your \"proof\" that this book was written by God.

And the reverse of what Doctor Whom said also holds true. Why are so many true believers poor and oppresed?
Or, for that matter, if Hitler was an athiest as people on your board often allege, why didn't God do anything about him?

Was it like the incident with the chariots of iron, or what?

3/3/2007 5:14:48 PM

BoxerShorts

If there is a God, may He strike me down before I hit the \"Submit Comment\" button!

If you're reading this, there is officially no God.

3/3/2007 5:17:25 PM

Sandman

This whole rant is based upon the assumption that atheists do, in fact, believe in God, and are just pissed at him.

Fatal logic error....

3/3/2007 5:56:25 PM

Mike

False assumption. You lose.

3/3/2007 5:59:22 PM

Matilde

Not really, they concentrate on the wrath of God to show that, believing in the OT fashion is as if you believe in any other Pagan God, that they´re just making God fit their own image and mirroring themselves and putting him like the childish retard they are. Obviously, that´s not particularly superior or spiritual to their beliefs.

3/3/2007 6:11:03 PM

Current

If someone told you: \"My invisible friend will make you suffer for an eternity if you don't wear yellow clothes\" would you A) Go change immediately or B)Tell him that you don't believe in his imaginary friend?
If you answered B, and that person asked you: \"Why do you mock my friend by saying he doesn't exist? do you think he will change his mind? I know you believe in him! Repent!\" how would you feel?

Well, that's exactly how I feel every time you condemn me to hell.

3/3/2007 6:16:17 PM

BunyipGirl

I wonder if it's possible for Carico to write anything without insulting people.

But rationality and love aren't in her lexicon.

3/3/2007 6:38:23 PM

anti-nonsense

We call him a monster in order to wake people up and try to make them question their beliefs.

He's like Dolores Umbridge, an evil fictional character, only people don't believe in Dolores Umbridge.

I say and think bad things about the Biblical god all the time, because the Biblical god is a nasty bastard and people should realize that, I've yet to be struck by lightening. Gee I wonder why? Could it possibly be because GOD IS IMAGINARY!? If your god existed Richard Dawkins would have been dead years ago.

3/3/2007 7:18:26 PM

sinner

carico doesn't seem to understand that we don't believe god exists.

3/3/2007 8:23:55 PM

Old Viking

I mostly just call him \"asshat.\" Is that mild enough that I stand a chance?

3/3/2007 8:39:11 PM

Tiny Bulcher

But we don't .., oh, it's Carico. Yeah, whatever.

3/3/2007 9:09:54 PM

Brain_In_A_Jar

After all the quotes that atheists use in the bible talking about what \"atrocities' God does to those who disobey Him, they, of all people, should have learned by now what happens to those who continually mock him

In other words, God will commit an atrocity if you accuse him of commiting atrocities. How does this strengthen your case that god isn't a vicious, unjust monster?

3/3/2007 9:27:24 PM

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