Quote# 22935

Look in any physics textbook for scientific evidence:
Mainly: The second "commandment" of thermodynamics: Entropy: Any closed system becomes less complex over time. According to this law, any closed system, including the known universe should after a period of time, encounters what physicists call 'heat death' Therefore, the universe had to be created by someone or something and given its complexity certainly not long ago.

BRIDOG529, Youtube-comments 25 Comments [4/1/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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4/1/2007 6:19:00 PM



4/1/2007 7:13:20 PM


Step into my classroom.



4/2/2007 4:30:59 PM


By the power of the second commandment of thermodynamics I order these gas molecules to disorder!

Thankfully the world doesn't work that way. The key point you are missing is that the cosmological structure of the universe is governed by Gravity. Gravity is a long range attractive force. thermodynamics deals with molecular level colisions governed by the electroweak force. This is a short range repulsive force.

short range repulsive =/= long range attractive

See the difference?

4/2/2007 4:31:53 PM


He said commandment, how quaint.

4/2/2007 4:41:05 PM

Doctor Whom

If God is eternal, did He die from heat death an eternity ago?

4/2/2007 6:00:31 PM



4/2/2007 6:33:55 PM


okay, he's not even paying attention to other fundies who use entropy in their arguments. He's just making shit up.

4/2/2007 6:57:59 PM

Captain Janeway

Wow, if I could jump as far as you did, I would never need to buy another airplane ticket.

4/2/2007 7:24:28 PM

Tiny Bulcher

Please explain thermodynamics to me. Thank-you.

(I give this phrase free to anyone debating fundies. It causes them to STFU - about 2LOT, anyway - every time).

4/2/2007 8:09:51 PM


The second \"commandment\" of thermodynamics: Entropy:
When will they ever stop trying to drag opposing views down to their level?

4/2/2007 8:21:11 PM

Old Viking

Your brain is a closed system.

4/2/2007 9:31:42 PM


Can we use your brain as an example of entropy, it doesn't seem very dynamic?

4/2/2007 10:08:45 PM


This old chestnut again?

4/2/2007 10:54:39 PM

Foster Disbelief

The second law of thermodynamics just called. It wants you to know, it doesn't fucking work that way.

Kthxla bai

4/2/2007 10:59:16 PM


Rabbits are furry. Therefore God exists.

Why are fundies that retarded?

4/7/2007 7:18:43 PM


\"universe had to be created by someone or something\"

you're absolutely right: the big bang

4/7/2007 8:50:05 PM


Second law of thermodynamics. You´re an idiot expert in non-sequiturs.

4/10/2007 5:20:12 PM


Apparently you missed the part where it would take trillions of years for heat death to actually happen to the universe (assuming that there isn't enough gravity to make everything collapse into another singularity thereby pressing the giant \"reset button\").

Also, why the hell would god design a Universe that would inevitably end at some point? Why not make something that will last forever?

4/10/2007 7:19:18 PM


Heat death will occur eventually, but it will take billions of billions of years to happen.

And no, that doesn't mean the universe has to have been created. The universe likely was a singularity "before" the Big Bang. A singularity has zero entropy because all of its energy is compressed into one point, and therefore, if it expands into a non-singularity, it has the capacity to do work (i.e. turn into matter).

By the way, entropy works with an ISOLATED system, not a closed system. The only isolated system in the universe is the universe itself.

12/26/2012 4:30:18 PM


A form of creationism that says "God made the Big Bang" - unfalsifiable, if rather silly.

>>given its complexity certainly not long ago.<<

And now we see the complete lack of understanding, unless 13.77 ± 0.06 billion years is to be counted as 'not long ago'. There is no arguing this number, except in the last decimal point. It's based on simply looking at the sky.

12/26/2012 4:47:23 PM


Why do you lack the concept of numbers over 6000?

3/9/2013 8:16:34 PM

Quantum Mechanic


6/8/2013 8:34:40 AM


Heat death is inevitable, yes, that's the scientific consensus. It's not even remotely soon at least not here, on this rock which is such a small part of the universe it's rightly considered relatively a dustball to the universe.

"Mostly harmless" at it's best.

And by the way when were we ever the closed system? Okay, estimates consider the sun as a body that ignited six billion years ago, but when the mother fired up it's sent energy out. Do you fuckers stare at it and go blind because you never give it any cred?

Six billion years from now they predict it may go red giant and game over Earth, we're cooked before we cool off.

6/8/2013 10:39:22 AM

Quantum Mechanic


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