szenah

Let's hope your gay acquaintances continue to have the sense to hide their orientation from you.

4/4/2007 11:40:46 AM

Chaoschaos

\"Tolerance does not mean having fellowship with the darkness.\"

It also doesn't mean condemning people to Hell for not agreeing with you.

Your hypothetical scenario showed pure hatred. Not what Jesus wanted.

4/4/2007 11:45:22 AM

Sevagram

First you explain that you can be set free from being a homosexual,it is called deliverance,Yes homosexuality is caused by a demon,just like some people can't stop stealing lying or murdering because they are controlled by demons.\"

As you appear to be controlled by a shit-talking demon, I'd be wary of casting too many stones, if I were you.

Once you repent and confess your sin,ANY homosexual can be set free with Deliverance.

Untrue. In my darker days, when I was a Christian who desperately wanted to make God and Jesus happy, I frequently begged God to 'deliver' me from my homosexuality. He didn't do it. Either God's a selfish and capricious cunt, or he doesn't exist. I suspect the latter. Fortunately, I now realise that there is nothing 'wrong' or 'sinful' about being homosexual.

Why do you think the BOHEMIAN GROVE ,where all the world leaders get together to plan their evil get busloads of gays to entertain them.

They don't. The 'bohemian grove' is a product of your woefully limited imagination.

So yes,if i have a friend that 'turns' i will read him the riot act and if he wont turn he'll burn.

And I hope he tells you to fuck off. It's the very least you deserve for being such a great 'friend'.

Although it will be slightly 'dangerous' on this occation to turn my back on this friend,i'll just tell him to scat after he refuse to accept that he is on the wrong road

Somehow I doubt he will be shedding too many tears. Sighing with relief that you're out of his life, more likely.

Tolerance does not mean having fellowship with the darkness.

Maybe not, but it does mean having the maturity to respect other people enough to let them live their lives any damn way they want so long as it doesn't hurt you or anyone else. No one said you have to like it, but that's the price you pay for living in a free society. We have to tolerate you and your silly superstitions; and you're a far more dangerous threat to our freedom than we are to you.But I guess you quite like that idea.

4/4/2007 11:54:48 AM

quantumspirit

what the hell is the fudge packer movement?

4/4/2007 11:59:19 AM

TheManeki

Homosexuals set free with Deliverance? Well, I bet freedomwarrior's shore got a pretty mouth. Wanna squeal for me?

4/4/2007 1:21:58 PM

Durane

The Bohemian Grove does exist, and the most powerful men in the world do gather there each summer. I doubt, however, that they discuss their evil plans.

4/4/2007 3:48:29 PM

Rahab

Wow, with friends like this...

4/4/2007 3:53:28 PM

CT

4/4/2007 4:01:55 PM

Grungust

Well, it's a good thing that most people tend to avoid intellectually stunted fundies, so I wouldn't worry about the friends part.

4/4/2007 6:37:43 PM

Haywood Jablomy

The members of Bohemian Grove put on some kind of pageant in which they dress in drag. I believe Harry Shearer made a movie based on this.

4/4/2007 9:05:15 PM

Evergreen

My gay friends ARE nice. That's WHY they're my friends.

What part of that is too complicated for you?

4/4/2007 10:36:22 PM

Brian X

The Bohemian Grove is nothing more than a party for rich white men who wish they still had their childhood clubhouse. It's... rather juvenile really.

4/5/2007 1:19:14 AM

Firthy2002

You are undeserving of the user ID \"freedomwarrior.\"

4/5/2007 1:28:36 AM

Ringwraith

Wow! Would I ever love to have you for a friend. Good to know that I would always have someone who would burn me alive if I disagreed with them...

4/5/2007 2:38:19 AM

Redhunter

TheManeki: I was wondering who was going to beat me to that!

Railing against homosexuality he mentions 'Deliverence', says \"turn my back on this friend\", he'll \"just tell him to scat\" and \"he/she opens its mouth?\"

There's enough material for a Freudian Robe and hat.

4/5/2007 7:24:59 AM

Captain Janeway

If you want Deliverance, Burt Reynolds says you have to squeal like a pig boy!

Queue banjos!

4/5/2007 9:41:55 AM

tracer


Hello Darkness, my old friend,
I've come to talk with you again....

4/7/2007 12:18:35 AM

anti-nonsense

\"Deliverance\" = scaring them with Hell until they repent and go back in the closet, making themselves miserable in the process.

4/7/2007 12:30:32 AM

Matilde

If tolerance is dangerous, you wouldn´t be writing this in the first place. Second, if demons are the cause of everything, sin doesn´t exist. You have to sin with fully free will.

4/10/2007 6:40:27 PM

GigaGuess

You.

Are.

A.

Prick.

9/22/2007 11:00:20 AM

/Many girls believe it is hip to have gay friends because they are so 'nice'
Yeah right./

I'm with Evergreen. I didn't choose to be friends with my gay friends because they were gay, I'm friends with them because they ARE nice. I may even go so far as to say they're nicer than some of my straight friends. As long as people are friendly and kind, I don't care if they're homosexual or straight. One is not exclusive to the other.

9/22/2007 11:32:25 AM

Axx

Caused by a demon? Last I checked it was caused by estrogen... so estrogen is a demon... so we have to kill every single woman to get rid of demons.

9/22/2007 12:44:14 PM

Malfist

From the Chaplain of Trinity College, Hartford, CT
Chaplain's Reflection
I saw on the news today that Matthew Shepard died. He was the 22 year old man from Wyoming who was beaten and tortured and left to die for no reason other than he was a homosexual. This tragic murder has raised a national debate again, the kind of periodic soul-searching our society goes through whenever a crime of hate startles us into awareness. The burning of Black churches, the bombing of innocent people, the death of a shy young man from Wyoming - these events suddenly shake us out of complacency and remind us that fear, prejudice and rage are always the shadows just beyond the light of our reason.

And so people suddenly start to speak out. There are voices of outrage and grief. Voices of sorrow and demands to know why such a thing could happen. And predictably, there are also defensive voices: the governor of Wyoming trying to explain why his state has no laws to protect people from hate crimes and the leadership of what is called the "Christian right wing" trying to explain why their national ads against homosexuality don't influence people to commit such violence against gays and lesbians. In the days to come, these many voices will fill our media and the cultural consciousness it imprints until we are once again lulled into the more familiar patterns of our lives, until the next tragedy rings the alarm of despair.

As the chaplain for our own community, I would like to invite us all to consider Matthew's death in another way. Not through the clamor or denials, not through the shouts or cries of anger: but rather, through the silence of his death, the silence of that young man hanging on his cross of pain, alone in the emptiness of a Wyoming night, the silence that ultimately killed him as surely as the beatings he endured. Silence killed Matthew Shepard. The silence of Christians who know that the scriptures on homosexuality are few and murky in interpretation and far outweighed by the words of a savior whose only comment on human relationships was to call us to never judge but only to love. The silence of well meaning educated people who pretend to have an enlightened view of homosexuality while quietly tolerating the abuse of gays and lesbians in their own communities. The silence of our elected officials who have the authority to make changes but prefer to count votes. The silence of the majority of "straight" Americans who shift uncomfortably when confronted by the thought that gays and lesbians may be no different from themselves, save for the fact that they are walking targets for bigotry, disrespect, cheap humor, and apparently, of murder.

Crimes of hate may live in shouts of rage, but they are born in silence. Here at Trinity, I hope we will all listen to that silence. Before we jump to decry Matthew's senseless death or before we seek to rationalize it with loud disclaimers: I hope we will just hear the silence. A young man's heart has ceased to beat. Hear the silence of that awful truth. It is the silence of death. It is the silence that descends on us like a shroud. At Trinity, as in Wyoming, we are men and women surrounded by the silence of our own fear. Our fear of those who are different. Our fear of being identified with the scapegoat. Our fear of taking an unpopular position for the sake of those who can not stand alone. Our fear of social and religious change. Our fear comes in many forms but it always comes silently: A whispered joke. A glance to look away from the truth. A quick shake of the head to deny any complicity in the pain of others. These silent aspects of our own fear of homosexuality are acted out on this campus every day just as they are acted out every day in Wyoming. Through silence, we give ourselves permission to practice what we pretend to abhor. With silence, we condemn scores of our neighbors to live in the shadows of hate. In silence we observe the suffering of any group of people who have been declared expendable by our society.

As a person of faith, I will listen, as we all will, to the many voices which will eulogize Matthew Shepard. I will carry that part of our national shame on my shoulders. But I will also listen to the silence which speaks much more eloquently still to the truth behind his death. I will listen and I will remember. And I will renew my resolve never to allow this silence to have the last word.

Not for Matthew. Not for gay men or lesbian women. Not for any person in our society of any color or condition who has been singled out for persecution. Not in my church. Not in my nation. Not in Wyoming. And not at Trinity College.

9/22/2007 12:56:15 PM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

I know many people who are homosexual. You'd never know.

11/14/2007 9:33:01 PM

Rock Hudson

That's still not a "no" honeybunny :D

11/14/2007 10:09:44 PM