[On homeschooling...]
I love the fact that I don't have to undo 8 hours of world each day. I don't have to re-teach science and creation. I can teach them the truth. I can integrate God into all areas and subjects.
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I love the fact that I don't have to undo 8 hours of world each day
Unless you teach your children about the world, they will never get a job there. Hell, they might not even survive there after you are gone.
The real world doesn't need sheeple.
Please remain in your ancestral pens and pastures, and we'll dose you for foot-and-mouth every once in a while. There's still not much we can do for scrapie, though. If anyone exhibits symptoms, we'd have to eradicate the whole flock.
Have a nice real-world day!
Skeptical: Ambrielle was asking about the homeschooling by FUNDIE parents; I only just skimmed that article, but the study didn't appear to make any distinction between secular and religious homeschooling, let alone have any close examination of fanatical religious homeschooling that virtually ignores or, worse, gives outright disinformation about secular subjects.
~David D.G.
The homeschool populations in the studies were running about 90% or more Christian. There have been no data indicating contrary results in any homeschooling population regardless; the sole exception being those that were removed from other schools due to having problems there.
You might google Joshua Harris or Patrick Henry College - fundie homeschooled kids now grown are entering congress, becoming lawyers, entering the mission field, pastoring churches, writing successful books, etc. I realize that is probably a scary thing here, but there's no doubt there's a force to be reckoned with; not much "fries with that" going on.
Oh yes, the glories of Patrick Henry College.
Actually, when I have kids, I would like to homeschool, too. For almost the exact opposite reasons. I want my kids to learn how to think.
Evolve : I'm pretty sure most people on here aren't talking about normal homeschoolers, just the fundie ones. Homeschooling, when done right, is a whole lot better than public school - problem is, fundies don't do it right. :P
evolveintobirds:
Oh, I absolutely agree (well, except that I'm not an anarchist, but with all the rest). I've been substitute teaching and...man! They walk into a room and the tables have been moved a little closer together; they have no idea what to do! The idea of "just sit down" doesn't occur to them. They need a teacher to tell them, "Yes, the tables have been moved, it's ok. Just take your usual seats in their slightly different places." They're ten to twelve years old, and they can't sit down or do a worksheet without somebody guiding them every step of the way.
It's just, really, really sad.
Let me add my own comments here, folks:
I was fortunate enough to go to a fairly good public school system as a child. But even though most of my teachers were pretty good, I still feel that I learned more outside of school than I did inside. My father taught me most of what I know about how to write papers, how to do different types of math problems, how to use a computer, etc.
So while I am opposed to those people who take their kids out of school for religious reasons, I think it is important to remember that schools only do a partial job educating kids. Parents will always have more work to do once the dismissal bell rings.
...It's things like this that make me glad that there is not a sperm cell betwixt myself and my partner.
Even if I did somehow have a child, I couldn't homeschool them, I'd have to just do my best to teach them the truth of school, and to learn to love learning, and to think critically and judge sources and become a good person.
I'm a student in the public school system, and it sucks. I spend most of my time copying pointless notes on things I learned 2 years ago. If I could spent those 8 hours each weekday on the internet, I'd learn more in a month than I do over a year in school. And the brilliant thing about the internet is the huge variety of contrasting viewpoints. I might actually be able to learn the truth, instead of whatever the state says is appropriate content for a textbook. We don't learn that Martin Luther was an anti-Semitic asshole, we learn that he was a great man who protested the evil Catholic Church.
>>I really wish someone would do a study on what happens to fundie home-schooled kids once they "grow up".
Well, as a former fundie home-schooled kid, let me explain how it all works. First of all, if you're a low-life with no respect for parental authority, you cheat your way through high school. As long as you go to church on Sunday morning and say your prayers before bedtime, your mother "trusts" you to "do your own work" to "glorify God." Along the way, you learn how to manipulate stupid fundies. Once you're done cheating your way through high school, you go to a private, Christian college and study theology. Since academics are not relevant to the study of theology, your lack of a high school education does nothing to prevent you from getting onto the Dean's List. You continue to manipulate stupid fundies and hone your skills of self-righteousness to the point where others will no longer challenge your sanctity, even though you're a closet slimeball. You quickly realize that as long as you hold to the "correct" morals and dogma, you're good to go in the fundie community. With theology degree in hand, you go on to become a fundie pastor. Now you manipulate stupid fundies for a living, all the while laughing behind your hand at the bizzare crap they'll believe. You hear "Amen!" everytime you say the word "Jesus" and get paid for making a pious speech every Sunday. Finally, you buy yourself a yacht and retire to the Carribean, to rest from your labors and enjoy the blessings that Lord has in store for all of His fundie preachers.
The End.
Oh, and this is a mostly true story, except for the part about the Yacht, but believe me, I'm confident that part will come true before long once I become a high-rolling fundie pastor ;-)
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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