[On preventing homosexuality in young boys]
[T]he boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger. [emphasis added]
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Then he can lube him up, bum him and taint his view of sexuallity for life, making him into a jaded, ultrafundamentalist suicide bomber.
Normally, I can at least figure out what was intended. Even if something is hugely ignorant, misguided, or misinformed, I can see the gentle glimmer of some, basic idea of where the poster was coming from, if not actual rationality or sense.
*Ahem*
Actually, Lisa, it's funny you say that. I was raised by my mother and I'm flat out lesbian. It might have something to do with trying to fill the void my father left when he moved out.
While the post is surreal, stupid and bizarre, there is nothing wrong with the human body, and I see nothing weird about bathing with your own child when they're little. Or with a bit of casual nudity around the house.
While the post is surreal, stupid and bizarre, there is nothing wrong with the human body, and I see nothing weird about bathing with your own child when they're little. Or with a bit of casual nudity around the house.
There sure is a lot of perversion in these comments above.
...and what the hell do penises have to do with whether or not your son turns out gay? Do gay people have small/no penises?
And that's not to mention the whole misguided concept of "preventing homosexuality."
My gay life partner was a professional rugby player.
So much for "rough and tumble" preventing homosexuality.
Please, Dr. - take Falwells' lead and die.
Thanks.
Having listened to 'Dr.' Nicolosi on James Dobson's radio broadcast, the idea is that Jr. will see Dad's wang and feel confident that his wang is good and therefore he'll growv up to want to use his like Dad's, as if sexual identity is something people put on, like a coat, when they want to express it.
In reality this probably traumatizes Jr. so he will be scarred for life and have terrible, terrible flash backs if he sees another man's penis as a teenager/adult.
Either way, I guess the fundies win in fucking up their sons.
I used to take showers with my mother or father (one or the other, not both at once) back when i was afraid of bathing alone. Nowadays i have no contact with my father, but my mother walks around naked all the time. Why is this a big deal?
(Although, to be fair, i'm bi. >_>)
I am happy to say that my sons play with dolls and are not allowed to have toy guns (my husband and I teach them that war and hurting people are not "games"). I am quite proud of the fact that my husband encourages them to be gentle and nurturing.
If (any of) my sons happen to be gay, I will know it's because that's how he was born! Not because my husband didn't wave his penis in front of them!
Oh and what's that crap about throwing and catching a ball being for boys? I'm female, and my MOM taught me how to throw when I was a wee lass. One of my sisters even played on the boys' baseball team, she was so good.
Dr Nicolisi is a freakin' creep.
"Oh, daddy, it's so much bigger than mine!" The father can then chuckle, saying "Let's see if we can fix that, huh, sport?"
Bow chika bow wow
i remember when i first saw dad's penis in the shower, it was so big and juicy, like the sausages my obedient subservient momma-bitch made for breakfast everyday, all i wanted to do was gobble it down in my mouth...it wasn't until years later that i showered with a male friend that i got the chance to taste that sweet sausage god made for me...thanks, xtians, for showing me how lovely the male member can be...of course, all the catholic priests know what i'm talking about ;) (killGWB)
We can rise above that petty bullshit.
No, let's not. This is just too fucking hilarious!
Maybe all that stuff about pounding holes, and comparing peeners is intended for producing butch, leather, topper gays as opposed to your effeminate, swishy, bottom fags?
This guy comes up with all sorts of shite pseudoscience on the website of the organisation he runs, NARTH(national assocaition for the research and therapy of homosexuality). Apparently, males grow up to gay when they aren't close to their fathers and they long for male affection. I dunno how showing your kid your penis makes you closer to him, though. It's all based on dumbass gender roles, discredited scientific causes of homosexuality like those of Socarides, and stereotypes about gays. [/soapboxofsomeonewhohatesexgayministries]
For the record, Dr. Nicolosi graduated from a uni that ranked 176th out of 185 graduate psychology programs, and when he was there it was more of a storefront. Nicolosi says he doesn't even remember where it was situated it was that nondescript.
this was a joke, look at what they were commenting on, quiet funny actually. It was a test to see if your son was gay, kinda like the tests to see if witches were witches.
It all kinda makes sense up until the showering part. To summarize:
Masculinity
Dudes don't need to shower together, if they do, they shouldn't have to see each other's shit. If they do, they sure as f*** shouldn't be looking at it, thinking... It's bigger than mine.
a huge LOL at both Dr Nicolosi and the hilarious comments!!
if this was myspace, i would give everyone 2 kudos!
He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son,
He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.
So, the kid looks at Dad and notices Dad's is really a whole lot bigger. Kid spends the next 10 years worrying himself to death that he has a tiny penis and may (MAY!) have difficulty relating to girls/women his own age due to said insecurity. Spends years in therapy with someone like Dr. Nicolosi.
Or, as Freud may have said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
(((Wife))) and I, when our children were toddlers, would often shower with the kids (usually one in the shower, one out cycling the kids in and drying them when they came out of the shower). Both seem well adjusted teens. Which is, in and of itself, scary.
So, the kid looks at Dad and notices Dad's is really a whole lot bigger. Kid spends the next 10 years worrying himself to death that he has a tiny penis and may (MAY!) have difficulty relating to girls/women his own age due to said insecurity. Spends years in therapy with someone like Dr. Nicolosi.
Or, as Freud may have said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
(((Wife))) and I, when our children were toddlers, would often shower with the kids (usually one in the shower, one out cycling the kids in and drying them when they came out of the shower). Both seem well adjusted teens. Which is, in and of itself, scary.
When I was little, I showered with both my parents. Saved time and water.
However, it wasn't as creepy as the quote above is.
"He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger"
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Which one are you, Dr. Nicolosi? Or are you actually Gary Glitter/Jonathan King in RL?
Yup, my dad did all this stuff with me. I turned out to be bi, trans and so heavily into BDSM I'm a lifestyle slave. Well, I guess it still prevented gayness...
So how do you explain me being a bisexual? Did I see too much of BOTH my parents' genitals, or too little? How do we balance the "genitals seen" to "resulting sexuality" ratio?
Oh wait, never mind. What you wrote was rubbish anyway.
In what way are these things different from the games he would play with a little girl?
My dad played "rounders" (light baseball) with all of us kids (two girls and two boys). He also taught us a bit of carpentry, and he showered with us all. We knew early on that boys had a penis, girls had a vagina; big deal! Nakedness was not a sin, but kinda natural.
Aside from the obvious homo-pedophilia in suggesting men should show children their big penises, anyone catch the implication of the peg pounding? I mean:
Penis - round shape
You do the math.
Confused?
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