Quote# 29179

"If we are doing good things merely because we want to do good things for people and don't want to hurt anyone, then our morality is still disobedience. It is only when we practice morality out of a love for God that it is counted as righteousness, and this can only be achieved in Christ Jesus."

ceeking truth, www.christianlinks.com 41 Comments [9/21/2007 12:13:56 PM]
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Burn in hell, evil do-gooder!


9/21/2007 12:16:53 PM


And this is why the fundies vision of YHWH disgusts me...

9/21/2007 12:23:30 PM


This person reads too many chick tracts.


Ugh. Wanted to puke just browsing the site to find that tract.

9/21/2007 12:28:04 PM


What a selfish uncompassionate shit this God must be.

9/21/2007 12:30:45 PM


Thanks for at least being honest about the fact that you are not compassionate or smart enough to do good for the sake of doing good, you have to have a scapegoat.

I'll continue to do good for the sake of doing good.. because it's the right thing to do.

9/21/2007 12:34:35 PM


You are an idiot, queeking truth. One should never, ever let one's relgion get in the way of doing what's right.

9/21/2007 12:38:55 PM

So, what's morality anyway?, to follow blindly the orders of a puppeteer?. If you were right, the world would have end 10,000 years ago.

9/21/2007 12:43:21 PM

In that case, the Heaven reward is spurious. After all, whatever you do you're either going to Heaven or Hell just for saying or not "I love Jesus", what's the point of behaving?. Next time a guy is pointing you with a knife and saying "Jesus is my saviour" tell me what you feel.

9/21/2007 12:45:22 PM


What a selfish uncompassionate shit this God must be.

As are many of his followers...

9/21/2007 12:56:02 PM

Sideshow Bob

So morality out of genuine altruism is wrong now?

When Paul used the filthy-rags thing, he simply used it to refer to the irrelevance of works, not to condemn the works themselves as wrong, or *shudder* disobedient.

I rarely use the word obedience because it's so loaded with robotic mindless connotations. This is largely thanks to folk like this.

9/21/2007 12:59:36 PM

Sideshow Bob

*sorry, the irrelevance of works when checked against the universality of sin.

9/21/2007 1:01:49 PM


Goodness carried out for the sake of goodness is always better then goodness carried out for rewards. Your morality makes me sick.

9/21/2007 1:01:49 PM

Count Spatula

So... we can only truly be good if we do good things because god is watching, not because we want to be good? Sorry, but I am not that pathetic.

9/21/2007 1:08:28 PM


You missed the whole point, ceek.

Please restore your soul to original specifications.* And this time, DO NOT allow your elders to corrupt it with their psychotic bullshit.

*if you don't know how, you're up Shit Creek without a paddle. And then, you lose.

9/21/2007 1:39:26 PM

Not seeing the disobedience there. Isn't that Golden Rule thing a direct command to "do good things merely because you want to do good things for people and don't want to hurt anyone"?

9/21/2007 2:36:37 PM


Yes. Religion owns all that is good. Anything bad is owned by atheists and teh debble.

9/21/2007 2:47:38 PM


@Necronomikron: Jack Chick's theology makes me sick. That people who have done nothing but make lives easier for thousands whilst giving up their own comfort go to Hell because they did not make those people obedient servants of God is disgusting. Meaning while a murder and thief goes to Heaven because he converted one guy. What the hell Jack?!?

9/21/2007 2:53:22 PM



9/21/2007 2:59:14 PM


So...in other words you're really not a "moral" person then.

9/21/2007 3:25:08 PM


We're not allowed to good things for other people, just good things for God? Boy, your god is selfish.

9/21/2007 4:01:39 PM


That's not a very pretty picture you paint of your deity there, bub!
Doesn't make me want to worship him jack-shit.

9/21/2007 4:14:37 PM

Mister Spak

Does this work with stupidity too? That is, if you are stupid out of a love for God do you achieve a higher level of stupidity than someone who is merely slow witted?

9/21/2007 4:22:34 PM


So, doing good deeds for one's imaginary friends is better than doing good deeds for actual human beings?

9/21/2007 5:06:24 PM


So doing good because you fear suffering eternal torture if you don't is somehow more moral than doing good because you think it's the right thing to do?

9/21/2007 5:17:26 PM

The Watcher

Y'know, I'm about ready for God to come down here and tell us exactly what He wants. If it's so damned important to Him that we only do things because He wants us to, would it kill Him to say so once in a while?

9/21/2007 6:44:27 PM

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