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Evolution is merely a religious belief posing as science about the origin of things. There isn't even a microbe piece of evidence to support the existence of evolution or that it has happened at any given time.

I challenge you to disprove the previous statement and find and present actual evidence that supports the existence of evolution. If you cannot prove it wrong by presenting actual evidence then by that very thing you have proven the statement to be true. That evolution is only a religious belief system not Science.

The following have already been proven false or fraudulent.

Bacteria in a lab test (False)
Life in a test tube (False)
The Pepper Moth (fraudulent)

Do not refer to websites as your answer but put it in your own words. Any one can refer to websites.

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old comment by John

Theories aren't "proved" - even the theory of gravity hasn't been "proved". Theories explain the available facts. If an actual fact is discovered that invalidates a theory, the theory is dead. But theories aren't invalidated by hypothetical what-ifs. That's called a "God of the Gaps" argument.

There are many things that would invalidate evolution; for example, if we found a mammal whose embryonic blastopore developed into a mouth instead of an anus, such as happens with insects. None of these many things have ever been found. Creationists are welcome to look for them, but they never do their own research, which shows they're more interested in "selling" their ideas to the lay public with BS than actually disproving evolution.

The peppered moth isn't fraudulent. The only question that has been raised is whether bird predation is the sole cause of the change in the distribution of the dark moth. No one except a few conspiracy theorists suggests the change in distribution didn't happen or that it isn't correlated to the rise and fall of industrial pollution. Nor is the peppered moth an example of evolution - just natural selection. Most creationists don't question natural selection in matters of minor traits like wing color or in things like the development of antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

old comment by Damen

Wrong, idiot, the mere fact that we have fossils alone gives support to the argument in favor of evolution as well as the years of study done on it. You're the one making the claim that there is no evidence when there clearly is so the burden of proof is on you.

Do not refer to websites as your answer but put it in your own words. Any one can refer to websites.

In other words "because I said so" is a more valid argument than an argument backed up with references from the website for the Smithsonian Institute?

You've lost all credibility, you failed, you need to go back to school, and above all;

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old comment by breakerslion

"Intelligent Design is merely a religious belief posing as science about the origin of things. There isn't even a microbe piece of evidence to support the existence of creation or that it has happened at any given time.

I challenge you to disprove the previous statement and find and present actual evidence that supports the existence of creation. If you cannot prove it wrong by presenting actual evidence then by that very thing you have proven the statement to be true. That creationism/ID is only a religious belief system not Science.

The following have already been proven false or fraudulent.

Eating apples makes you embarrassed(False)
Cloning female progeny (XX)from a male (XY) (False)
Talking snakes (fraudulent)

Do not refer to Bibles as your answer but put it in your own words. Any one can refer to bibles. "

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old comment by Swede

The one who makes a statement is the one who has the responsibility to prove it, stupid.
We can just sit and laugh at your stupidity.

We humans have a defective Vitamin C-creating gene, so do most other primates. But almost all other animals produce their own Vitamin C.
Why would a perfect and infallible God create us with defective genes? And how come we share this gene with primates if we don't share a common ancestor who received this defective gene through a random mutation?

I wasn't even aware that there was a debate about the existence or non-existence of evolution before I came to this site. Or rather, that there were people who truly believe that evolution is false.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

Richard Lenski's 20+ year E-coli evolution experiment. Fact.

Flavobacterium that eats Nylon: a man-made material that didn't exist before the 20th Century. Fact.

MRSA: One step ahead of virologists. Fact.

...and for a more visual example:

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Ben Johnson's 100 Metres record at the 1988 Seoul Olympics. The rest is history. Since then, anyone who came close to the original record was immediately suspect, as - per Johnson - their doing so without performance-enhancing drugs etc was called into question.

Then came Usain Bolt. The above at the 2009 Berlin World Championships.

Now, either the sports pharmaceutical industry might as well pack up & go home, as Chicken Nuggets are a proven performance-enhancing drug; and his non-Spartan regimen of partying with the ladies can't have anything to do with it, neither. Or, question: A purely natural talent, or are we seeing the emergence of Homo Superior?

Fact.

No 'websites' required. If you'd care to present us with your 'God' in equally physical form that can be seen, and is prepared to duplicate this so-called 'Creation' you think is somehow more credible than now proven Evolution, but I warn you now: Do not refer to the Bible/resort to 'Apologetics'/be reduced to 'pseudoscience' as your answer but make your 'God' appear before me.

Anyone can refer to bullshit.

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