I agree with you. Im a Christian and I respect gays and their rights but Im against gay marriage. Like Meaty said people can do anything they want now then.....and at this rate people might soon go off and marry animals. You dont see animals being gay do you? The natural way is with a man and a woman. (Its how God designed it.)
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I agree with you. Im a Christian and I respect gays and their rights but <flimsily supported condemnation>
In other words, you don't respect gays and their rights.
If I received a penny each time a fundie said this I would be fabulously wealthy.
Before of trying to prove you're not a bigot by saying bigotted things, think before speaking!
actually i just walked in on my cats, they seem to have recently become incestuous lesbians.
Bonobos (a type of chimpanzee) are well known for their same-sex relationships (yes, spartan117, including sexual activities). I believe dolphins are known to have them, and...GASP!...there are even animals who have sex with themselves and even procreate doing so!!
As far as marrying an animal goes, aside from the age requirement (do sheep live to be 18?), there is the consent issue. What makes you think any self-respecting animal would want to pollute its bloodlines by marrying and producing children with one of us screwed up humans?
I keep hearing all this balderdash about gay marriage threatens the institution of marriage, but so far nobody has bothered to present a cogent argument as to how that would work. Seems to me that it would strengthen the institution, the more people who wanted to enter into it.
You do know, don't you, that the same arguments were put forth as a reason for the miscegenation laws. Just a new twist on the old bigotry. (PS...gay marriage is legal here in South Africa and it hasn't collapsed the institution of marriage yet.)
Im a Christian and I respect gays and their rights...
...but Im against gay marriage.
Like Meaty said people can do anything they want now then.....and at this rate people might soon go off and marry animals.
You dont see animals being gay do you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_animals
The natural way is with a man and a woman. (Its how God designed it.)
"I agree with you. Im a Christian and I respect gays and their rights but Im against gay marriage."
Isn't this akin to a slave owner saying, "I respect slave's rights but I'm against them having freedom" ? You cannot respect someone's rights and then deny even one right to them.
"Like Meaty said people can do anything they want now then.....and at this rate people might soon go off and marry animals."
Weeee! I love slippery slopes!
"You dont see animals being gay do you?"
Actually, you do. Quite a number of species in fact. More than 300 documented cases as far as I'm aware.
"The natural way is with a man and a woman. (Its how God designed it.)"
Assuming your god exists and actually "designed" it, then that leaves two possibilities: either everything is working as your god intended and you've just misinterpreted how it's supposed to work or your god fucked up mightily. Judging from the rest of the Bible and how poorly thought out it seems to be--you know, your god having to flood an entire planet after he judged it "good"--I'd have to say I'll go with the second option.
Ok Spartan, I tell you what; if we promise- and I mean a super-special, hand on heart, hope-to-die puh-romise - that we'll never legalise zoophiliac marriage, will you vote to let gays marry?
See, this actually works out in your favour, because gay marriage will ultimately become legal whether you like it or not. But with this deal, we evil secularists will be honour-bound to keep zoophilia illegal, which is what we're going to tackle after we've made all your children gay.
Isn't it everybody?
So because we let Gay people (they are not "Gays") drive, that means my dog can drive? or I can let my 5 year old drive?
And isn't there a gay pair of penguins at the New York Zoo, even though they have lots of females around. There's been lesbian seagulls.
And what about all the ungulates that live in all female herds, only letting males come around when their ready to breed.
Er... Why is it when people bring up gay marraige, fundies bring up bestiality?
I mean WHAT THE HELL!
The natural way is "cloning" via mitotic division. Majority of life on earth uses that trick.
As for "Gay Marriage"... Gay people have been "getting Married" for decades. They made their own ceremonies up and so on. The new law just means gay people's marriages will change from a vow to a legal binding contract.
You cannot complain about the sanctity of marriage when you can be married by a man dressed as The King...
"I respect gays and their rights but Im against gay marriage"
nuff said there
Haven't you seen Big Gay Al's Big Gay Animal Sanctuary?
Lately, we call my mom's cat Bitch.
"You dont see animals being gay do you?"
Once again, a fundie completely ignores or denies facts. Do a little research and you will find plenty of examples of homosexual behavior in animals. But words like "research" and "evidence" mean nothing to you, do they?
Yes, there are gay animals, but even if there weren't...
You don't see animals riding bikes, driving cars, flying planes, doing banking, playing guitar, brewing beer, electing presidents, DO YOU???
So stop telling us about how "god" designed stuff!
A lady from Haiti
Which part of "consenting adult" don't you understand?. And by the way, homosexuality exists within certain species. And following your logic, the natural way is to have five fingers, should we illegalise all guys who have six?
Actually, some recent research's pointed out that it's rather more common than we thought that some animals engage in what we'd consider homosexual behavior. You don't see them giving a rat's ass who or what God is, do you? They can't even understand the idea of God!
uh lol yeah you do see animals being gay. bonobos, dolphins, penguins, geese...just to name a few species that engage in homosexual activity.
Like Meaty said people can do anything they want now then.....and at this rate people might soon go off and marry animals.
You dont see animals being gay do you?
(Its how God designed it.)
"I respect gays and their rights but Im against gay marriage."--Lulz, I'm ttly fine with gay ppl I just dun wanna haf to give them the same rights I haff lololol.' Please. How can you respect the rights of gay people when you're trying to RESTRICT those rights?!
"at this rate people might soon go off and marry animals" Considering that animals can't give their consent to sexual intercourse, no one is going to marry animals. There's this little thing called the law that people have to follow, y'know?
"You dont see animals being gay do you?" ...Yes, actually. You DO see animals being gay. For fuck's sake, go read a book other then the bible please. Or at least wikipedia it!
"Its how God designed it.)" It's how you like to THINK God designed it. Tell me, do you eat shellfish? Do you speak in church? Have you come across adulteresses and not stoned them? 'Cause if so, you're no better biblically-speaking then those gay people you 'respect' so much.
Animals are not consenting beings and cannot sign a marriage contract.
I am gay and I own a dog, and I am the last person who would like to fuck my dog and make him do dishes in the kitchen bare foot and pregnant, unlike your sick ass.
i find it funny that fundies will always claim how humans are far superior to other animals, but when faced with having to prove their argument, they will use animals to claim something isn't "natural"
Yeah, marry animals, because we all know animals have legal standing and can sign a marriage certificate.
Also... I do see animals being gay. Google it. Bonobos are are nearly 100% bisexual. I also owned two male rabbits that constantly went at it with one another.
spartan: You dont see animals being gay do you?
me: well animals actually are bisexual, male wolves would actually take on a male lover if no female is available for them within the pack. its nature.
me: Gays tend to be more loyal to their loved ones then some hetro married couples that go off and be screwing someone else. so just because they are gay doesnt mean anything, they should be allowed to marry too, its a holy factor between two people.. it doesnt say man or woman.. just two people.. no gender implied..
well, my dear this thread has indeed been long beaten. Truly, shouldnt marriage be about who you love? Not who you should love. does arranged marriage help your so called sanctity of marriage? because its a man and woman? thats just silly to think that. Arranged marriages dont make sense to me because two people are forced, they dont love one another. My best friends are the cutes couple you could ever meet, they have the relationship all girls dream of, nice boyfriend nice house a dog good jobs. Its the american dream right? did i mention they are boys? does that change how wonderful the relationship is? it does not.
I see that you are a Halo fan, spartan117. Nothing wrong with that. On a side note, the Halo story has about as many contradictions as the Bible. Maybe that explains something?
Oh, and about nature. I do remember reading that there was this species of bats, you see. Now the males of this species, interestingly enough, the males of this species had a 40% rate of homosexuality.
But I'm sure this was just a man-induced occurrence, right? A contamination of chemicals, am I right?
But surely man can't altar God's perfect design, can we?
"Like Meaty said people can do anything they want now then.....and at this rate people might soon go off and marry animals."
There's sort of a barrier to cross going from gay marriage to zoophilic marriage.
"You dont see animals being gay do you?"
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One of those rights is to get married to their loved ones.
People CAN do anything they want, as long as it doesn't harm other people.
The natural way is with people you like and are attracted to, and who consent to the act. The genders and numbers involved are of lesser importance.
Which god? When and how? Who designed that god?
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