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My Dinosaur Challenge

Complete the logic:
The Bible mentions birds.
Birds are avian dinosaurs.
The Bible mentions _______________.

AV1611VET, ChristianForums 82 Comments [3/24/2008 8:35:24 AM]
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Shit I always score badly on these fundy pop quizzes.

3/24/2008 8:42:33 AM

Mattural Selection

"The bible mentions..." insects having 4 legs, Pi = 3, the world is flat etc etc.

And no, the bible makes no mention of dinosaurs. Birds may have descended from dinosaurs, but they are no longer dinosaurs. They are birds.

3/24/2008 8:43:32 AM


Complete the logic:
AV1611VET made a statement.
The statement has no point.
AV1611VET _________________.

3/24/2008 8:45:39 AM



3/24/2008 8:46:38 AM


Warm-blooded dinosaurs?

Birds are far more removed from dinosaurs than we are from chimps. And monkeys, I hazard.

Are you wndorsing evolution here, AV?

3/24/2008 8:55:11 AM


If you stretch logic too far, it snaps you know.

3/24/2008 9:04:45 AM


Just when I think that it is physically impossible for AV to get any dumber.

3/24/2008 9:21:44 AM


The Bible mentions a human who is a son of God.
Øyvind is a human.
Øyvind is _____________.


3/24/2008 9:24:21 AM


you fail biology.

3/24/2008 9:57:08 AM

You have no fucking idea of science.

3/24/2008 10:20:37 AM


Mouse eats cheese
Mouse is a syllable
Syllable eats cheese?

Just about as 'logical' as your idiotic statement.

3/24/2008 10:22:05 AM

Princess Rot

In AV1911VET's world, two plus two equals five and dinosaurs fly around his head.

3/24/2008 10:39:06 AM


AV1611VET made a statement.
The statement has no point.
AV1611VET _________________.

being himself?

3/24/2008 10:42:11 AM


Didn't he just admit that evolution between species exists? I mean Dinosaurs were definatly another species than modern day birds. But somehow they changed and became birds...

3/24/2008 11:35:38 AM

Mister Spak

Magic fruit.

3/24/2008 11:44:19 AM



1. Socrates was a man.
2. All men are mortal.
-> All men are Socrates.

No......wait. Uh...

(I stole that from Woody Allen)

But it makes as much sense as that stupid fundie cunt's "logic".

3/24/2008 11:54:55 AM

Sweet Violet

Not possible since a false premise ("birds are avian dinosaurs") is included and no valid conclusion can therefore be drawn.

Birds are not dinosaurs of any kind, they are merely descended from dinosaurs in the same way you, AV1611VET are descended from an ancestor we have in common with the apes.

No amount of logic, specious or otherwise, can draw a valid conclusion when one or more of the premises are invalid themselves.

There is no depth of stupidity you will not plumb in order to appear "right," is there?

3/24/2008 12:15:09 PM

Blayze Kohime

But... birds aren't avian dinosaurs. Coming from something isn't the same as being something. You aren't your parents, the ashes of a burned newspaper isn't a newspaper, shit isn't food, etc.

3/24/2008 12:15:09 PM


I love it. They chant how the bible is literally true...until it doesn't work anymore. Then it's just allegory.

3/24/2008 12:18:04 PM


Ooh, ooh, I know! Teh gayz?

3/24/2008 12:22:12 PM

BIRDS, the answer is still birds, so what is your point?

3/24/2008 12:31:58 PM

El Guapo

Whether we are going to call birds dinosaurs or not is not important. If we do, they are extant dinosaurs, as are crocodiles, alligators and caimans. Whatever.

The point is that the great big non-feathery dinosaurs (with which modern birds and crocodilians share a common ancestor to the exlusion of other extant taxa) all died long before humans evolved, and further, the cause of their death was not likely a flood that lasted 40 days and nights.

But for the sake of shits and giggles lets just include birds in the taxon avian dinosaurs, and see that the following also holds true.

The Bible mentions birds.
Birds are avian dinosaurs.
I had an avian dinosaur salad sandwich for lunch yesterday.
An avian dinosaur shat on my car.
An avian dinosaur-brained individual calling himself AV1611VET likes to post comments on ChristianForums regarding scientific matters on which he is ignorant (because of the brain-thing previously mentioned).

3/24/2008 12:53:14 PM


Birds are only avian dinosaurs if you accept evolution.

3/24/2008 1:14:55 PM


bats as birds.

3/24/2008 1:21:16 PM

Sweet Violet wrote:

"Not possible since a false premise ("birds are avian dinosaurs") is included and no valid conclusion can therefore be drawn."

Not exactly. The argument is valid (of course, this depends on how rigorous we make our notion of identity). However, since the the premise "Birds are avian dinosaurs" is doubtful, it is incorrect to infer the conclusion from the premises. If the conclusion were demonstrably false, then we could say that the argument is not sound. (Recall that an argument is valid if and only if whenever the premises are true so is the conclusion. Validity does not apply to statements.)

3/24/2008 1:32:22 PM

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