[So why are western men so able to control themselves in the presence of so many unveiled women?
Easy! it's called maturity, will-power, and self-discipline.]
Or is it because of the free availability of women who just want to be laid? Unlike the East, women here are free to be taken, all you have to do is ask! Even married ones would willingly cheat. So the men in the West aren't exactly saints. In a muslim country, even they would turn into animals. As you see, it cuts both ways.
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Stop rationalizing.
You're wrong.
It's over.
"Unlike the East, women here are free to be taken"
Awesome! Do they come in six packs or do you have to take them seperately? I know it's easier to get them home in the six-pack crate, but it's a real pain when you open it up and find you've got five brunettes and a redhead, but no blonde.
So you're saying your men don't have self control because your women don't own their own sexuality? Oh really? So basically, you're all children, and can't say "no" to temptation, so you foist all the responsibility on women.
Riiiiight.
Women in the west can fuck who they want. It doesn't mean they want to fuck everyone. Which is why your dumbass is on the internet being a sexist prick instead of, you know, spending time with one of those actual western women.
No, I think it's maturity, will-power, and self-dicipline. Also, we're raised to respect women as human beings and not just as walking vaginas.
The only bright spot in all of this is that most of the fundies are probably Americans, which makes me ever so glad to be Canadian. Not that we don't have our share of nutjobs, they're just not taken near as seriously.
Or its that Western men are raised to know that no means no, and if you absolutely must take care of a sexual urge, there's no problem with doing it yourself.
Maybe because they aren't raised to think of a woman as worth less than a dog.
@Septic Sceptic
Come on man, this isn't Pop Shoppe. If you buy in cases it's not gonna be perfect. If you want all blondes you gotta shell out the extra cash. Thats why all mine are redheads, and sure it cost more, but it's worth it.
Schwa? Here is what you are saying:
1. Women must be repressed sexually to control men.
A brilliant piece of reasoning...so, then, you agree that we should be encouraging the women in the Islamic world to remove arbitary constraints on their own sexuality? Or do you just want to play the scornful martyr, here?
Evidently all the expats around here (Arabian Gulf) are humping in the street. And I should be jumped on by all the locals here.
Wait...
No...
Not all women in the Islamic world cover up, just as in the Western world not everyone has a white picket fence and lives in the 'burbs. Why must these guys always stereotype?
Let me analyse it. So, men stop being animals because:
Ha! Arbitor85, take a trip to Dubai some time :) The girls there go nuts for western men :)
It pokes holes in your theory all over the place doesn't it?
Ha! Arbitor85, take a trip to Dubai some time :) The girls there go nuts for western men :)
It pokes holes in your theory all over the place doesn't it?
Mr Smith: I live in Dubai. What crap are you talking? It's Dubai. The locals here make up less than 10% of the population. Everyone and everything lives here.
Signed, the western expat.
"Or is it because of the free availability of women who just want to be laid? Unlike the East, women here are free to be taken, all you have to do is ask!"
And then you are told No. A word you Eastern men don't allow females to say. And no, married ones would not willingly cheat, as you are inferring. Sure, some do, but not all.
I so wish that were the way it was.
As opposed to your land, arbitor85, where all you have to do is brutally rape them and you will never suffer the consequences.
Oops, I see a flaw in the reasoning...
If western women are easy and muslim women aren't, why would western men "turn into animals" when muslim women were around?
As someone pointed out, this is an Indian Christian writing, who seem to hate Muslims more than "sahibs" (or "honkeys" or "blue-eyed devils" or whatever). But that is even more confusing; isn't Indian culture (from old times) so relaxed towards sex that they don't have that [both positive and negative] fixation towards it as we Westernes do?
"isn't Indian culture (from old times) so relaxed towards sex that they don't have that [both positive and negative] fixation towards it as we Westernes do?"
Despite the Kama Sutra, Indian culture is actually fairly repressed, perhaps due to being ruled by the Muslim Mughal Empire for centuries.
Exhibit A: At a fundraiser, Richard Gere repeatedly smooched Bollywood star Shilpa Shetty. For a while, hardline Hindus wanted to prosecute Shetty for obscenity.
Yet in the Victorian age, where women were not so free to "just want to get laid," they did not wear veils and men didn't jump them once they stepped outside of their homes. Granted, they were covered up more than the majority of women are today, but at least they didn't have to cover their faces. And don't tell me that a woman has never been raped while wearing a hijab.
Besides, my grandparents and parents have both been married for many years, with no infidelities on either side. And no, people tend to be selective in terms of who they choose to sleep with. You don't just randomly walk up to them and ask them. You could probably only do that with a prostitute, if you had money with you, of course. And don't tell me that your precious East doesn't have prostitutes, hypocrite.
And by saying that men have the self-control of a hyena, you stupidly turn your comment into an equal-opportunity offender. NO MEANS NO. If a man can't understand that, then he's a idiot. Plain and simple.
Confused?
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