@ #2191588
SpeedBaller
"I don’t know why you all are picking on this one." - because it deserves it.
"It is legitimately insightful." - the only insight it provides is insight into the poster's colon, which is where I suspect this drivel originated.
"I can offer a logical proof on why intelligence of extraterrestrial origin is more likely, but both are unfounded and the responses here are either mean-spirited, foolishly proud drivel, or both." - OK, I'll take that challenge....
"I: Probability of God existing = x " - OK.
"II: Probability of non-God extraterrestrials = y" - OK so far.
"III: IFF God exists, Earth is God’s creation" - Aaand there we go. Please provide "logical proof" that this is the case (and no, the Bible is not "logical proof").
"IV: If Earth is God’s creation, God is not terrestrial" - Depends on how you define "creation". If you refer to the planet itself, sure. If you refer to everything on it, this does not follow. For example if the supposed deity was the first thing on the planet, and said deity "jump-started" life.
"V: If God is not terrestrial, God is extraterrestrial" - OK
"VI: Probability of any extraterrestrials = x+ y" - OK as well
"VII: Probability can not be a negative value" - also OK
"VIII: x + y >/= x" - Yeah, I'll buy that as well
"IX: Probability of extraterrestrial is at least as high as Probability of God" - Exactly! "At least as high as...".
Congratulations! You have demonstrated that the existence of "non-god" extraterrestrials is at least as probable as the existence of a creator deity.
Which means that the probability of "non-god" extraterrestrials can be higher than the probability of a creator deity. Which I don't think anyone will disagree with, unless they are already convinced of the existence of some god or other.
Now riddle me this, SpeedBaller: How is the above supposed to "offer a logical proof" that [belief in] the existence of "non-god" extraterrestrials is just as unfounded as belief in a creator deity?
Or, to put it in another way:
Reasons to find the existence of a creator deity probable: A 3.000 year old book written for and by Middle-eastern goat herders.
Reasons to find the existence of extraterrestrial life probable: Life here on Earth shows us, that life arises anywhere it can, and in a lot of places where you would think it couldn't (.g. deep-sea volcanic vents). Furthermore, the processes that led to life here on Earth are not "special" - they rely on the same physics and chemistry that are at work in the rest of the Universe as well (as far as we can determine).
Regards & all,
Thomas L. Nielsen
Luxembourg
