Quote# 39426

[The sinister effects of growing up with Disney's "Pinnochio"]

The youth of the Pinocchio era are the leaders of our country, policies. legal systems and society today. And what, may I ask, happened to prayer in school? To the Ten Commandments in public places? To Christianity in general? Hasn't Satanism become an official "religion" today? And Paganism? And how might you suspect the separation of church and state, which is NOT in the Constitution but was rather a letter from an early president to a pastor promising no national religion, became a law of the land? Maybe this multi-level inference is not as far-fetched as you might think.

CAPAlert, CAPAlert 70 Comments [5/17/2008 10:57:28 PM]
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What the crapz

5/17/2008 11:02:23 PM

Old Viking

Either the most outrageous form of post hoc ergo propter hoc ever perpetrated, or this person is demented.

5/17/2008 11:02:38 PM

Allegory for Jesus

Correlation does not imply causation. That has never been more laughably clear than when reading your baseless rant.

Also, the words "separation of church and state" is a description of the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, as well as being the explicit term used to describe a similar policy mentioned in the Treaty of Tripoli.

5/17/2008 11:02:41 PM


History is fun to make up, isn't it?

5/17/2008 11:04:27 PM


How does any of this relate to Pinnochio, anyway?

5/17/2008 11:08:48 PM


WOW. just WOW.

5/17/2008 11:15:38 PM


OK. OK. I'm fine with that. I've seen the heavy research that went into proving how the Wizard of Oz books were tools of the evil elite that desensitize young minds to satanism and paganism. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some fundie got a Pinocchio-fetish and had to do up a webpage about the evils of Pinocchio. I'm waiting to hear about the subtle wiccan symbolism of 'Bedtime for Frances' next.

But I will concede these pages are written by stupid useless waste-of-dna whackjobs spending time on finding evil in children's stories, all too likely to be helping to support REAL evil in their real life.

5/17/2008 11:17:16 PM


Score one for Pinocchio!

5/17/2008 11:31:02 PM

Mr Frog

Her nose has grown a few inches.

5/17/2008 11:34:05 PM



5/17/2008 11:37:57 PM

Grey Wolf

"Maybe this multi-level inference is not as far-fetched as you might think"

I agree. I'm fairly certain that this multi-level inference is even further-fetched than I could possibly think

5/17/2008 11:42:27 PM

Wet Walnuts

Wow...I remember Thomas Carder's CAPAlert! I hadn't seen this guy on here in a while!

5/17/2008 11:42:34 PM


You think that's bad? Wait until we're able to vote the Aqua Teen Hunger Force generation into office!

5/17/2008 11:47:53 PM

Travelling Hobo

I can't stand people like this, they have no idea of how much they have to be thankful for. Nothing has happened to prayer in schools if someone wishes to pray then they can and if you want to wear a shirt in public with the ten commandments on it you can. This is a great deal better than a lot of places in the world you ungrateful disrespectful little sod.

5/17/2008 11:50:56 PM

Madame Scarlet

Wait, what? You're blaming all of this on Pinnochio?

5/17/2008 11:58:25 PM

Mister Spak

Wait till we get to the "Rocky Horror Picture Show" generation.

5/18/2008 12:04:07 AM


Oh, THAT'S why I'm an atheist! It's not because there's no proof of god's existence or that Christianity makes absolutely no sense to me. It's because I watched Pinocchio about fifty times as a kid. It all makes sense now!

@Illuminatalie: I used to own Bedtime for Frances! Also Bread and Jam for Frances, which was my favorite because it was about food. I still remember the hard-boiled egg she gets when she stops eating exclusively bread and jam, with "a little packet of salt to dip it in."

(This has been a glimpse into MysticalChicken's childhood memories. Please exit via the door on your left. Thank you.)

5/18/2008 12:11:47 AM


And how does he manage to relate all this to one bloody Disney movie. Sometimes the thought process of fundies are truly beyond me.

5/18/2008 12:15:58 AM


Um, where does Pinocchio come into the picture?

And, have you ever actually read the constitution? No, I didn't think so.

Privately, anyone who wants to pray can do so; no one stops them. But, they are to do it privately; it is not a collective activity for the whole class in a public school system.

Wanna' pray to pass a test? Go right ahead. Wanna' pray the bully doesn't beat you up and take your lunch money? Go ahead. No one is fucking stopping you from saying your prayers.

5/18/2008 12:36:35 AM


"And how might you suspect the separation of church and state, which is NOT in the Constitution but was rather a letter from an early president to a pastor promising no national religion, became a law of the land?"

And I quote: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

5/18/2008 12:36:46 AM


Didn't Pinnochio teach you not to lie.

5/18/2008 12:44:23 AM


Osiris: That's the problem. That's Pinnochio's whole message, while it's only an easily-ignorable part of the Bible. And you know how the fundies love to lie.

5/18/2008 12:49:31 AM


I'll admit, sometimes I'm not that bright. But WTF does any of that have to do with Pinocchio?

5/18/2008 1:16:49 AM

Concerned Christian

CAPAlert is right. Pinnochio is based on Kabbalistic tales of the golem - a doll or puppet brought to life through occult means. It teaches children to "wish upon a star" (worship of the heavenly bodies is forbidden in Scripture) rather than pray to God for their needs. I'm not sure I would draw all of the inferences the poster above does, but he does have a point.

5/18/2008 2:13:06 AM

Jake Steel

Is he trying to imply christianity is a lie?

5/18/2008 2:19:38 AM

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