Just a word of warning - I successfully discipled my family into understanding the times we're in...too well, perhaps.
My view is that the rapture will happen in the very near future. My 17 year old son had been a brilliant student in elementary and middle school, however, I convinced him of my rapture understanding. Suddenly, his grades plummeted. He lost all interest in doing his school work. Basically, his attitude is...why bother. I've been working for months to correct his understanding, but to no avail.
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Good going Daisy, you broke your son's spirit.
It will probably require professional therapy to heal him.
Congratulation bitch.
You're now elegible for the "Worst person ever" award. It consists of being hit repeatedly in the face by a large mallet by anyone who hates you.
Hmm.. maybe an uneducated fundie is better than an educated one. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
That being said, I recommend everyone here to telepathically plead to the God of your choice to free this poor child from the mental bondage he has been placed in.
Well, you got exactly what you wanted: Your son believed you. Congratulations.
Next time, be more careful what you wish for.
Well we can only hope he runs away and gets taken in by some nice Humanists.
But if not, he'll be another brain dead fuck that your sky-daddy seems to love so much. Congratulations.
Love the fact that they seem to think both she and her son are quite rational about the 'why bother' bit.
Unintended consequence hits again. The fundies are great at predicting all sorts of slippery slopes for views and opinions they don't like, such as gay marriage and atheism. You'd have thought they'd apply them to their own attitudes, too. Apparently not.
I just looked outside, and still no rapture. Please go to the closet, get one of your blood-thirsty husband's guns, (yes, we know) put it in your mouth, and pull the trigger. It's not too late to save your family and the world from you.
Yes, Daisy Lane, death cults do have a funny way of fucking with kids' heads. He's DEPRESSED because you've basically convinced him that the world he knows is going to end any second, that people he loves will likely end up in hell, and that there really IS no point.
You made your bed, now you get to lie in it. I suggest getting this kid some therapy.
Nice going. You turned a potential future rocket scientist into another burger flipper.
(dammit, DW took the words out of my mouth)
Congratulations,
Cannot blame your son, as Stardrake already said, your son just drew the logical conclusion from your belief that the rapture might happen within the next years.
Sad for you that you´ll see that even in the next decades no rapture will happen (but your son nevertheless probably will stay a burger flipper ;) )
This woman should be dragged off to a prison somewhere. Her parenting skills are obviously abysmal, and she simply doesn't have the mental capacity nor the psychological stability conducive to child-rearing.
In short, the woman is a fuckstick.
This is the way I felt in high school.
Fuck you, Jack van Impe. Yeah, I blame you.
Wow, what a cunt. Now her son is royally fucked, irregardless of needing therapy, when, and now I guess she has almost certainly made it an if, he applies to college, all that they will see will be the products of his mother's warped and fatalistic worldview. Bitch, your life is probably an essay in how to best fail at existence, and you have succeeded in extending this to the lives of the people you love* most. Congratulations. Perhaps you should get him therapy before he kills himself, or give up for adoption to sane, educated parents.
*As the personhood of fundies is questionable, I'm not sure if the emotion they feel their family members can be called love. More like "It will be extra awesome when my blood god flies out of the sky and blasts them out of existence".
"He lost all interest in doing his school work. Basically, his attitude is...why bother."
Seems a reasonable position to take when told that you have very little time before god himself shows up and whisks you off to heaven. Hell, if I bought into it I'd do the exact same thing and accuse anyone who didn't of not truly believing the Rapture was imminent.
That's like the best comeback joke EVER!!
Watch as he starts doing drugs too!
*totally unnecessary schadenfreude*
Wow, I guess my oldest daughter is a secret believe in the rapture - she doesn't do her homework and doesn't care about school!
I thought it was the age, being a teenager and all, but it might go deeper than that!
*shouders*
Lady, you fail as a mother! If you can not raise your kids to look forward and be hopeful for their future, you are a lousy fail! You took away your kids dreams and ideas, hopes and plans!
What, he didn't already know you believed that shit? You'll be astonished to learn that not every teen boy tells his mother what's on his mind. Some of them even HIDE things. For example, magazines, in my day, web sites today.
"My 17 year old son had been a brilliant student in elementary and middle school, however, I convinced him of my rapture understanding. Suddenly, his grades plummeted. He lost all interest in doing his school work. Basically, his attitude is...why bother."
Good job, there supermom. You took a bright, happy child and transformed him into a fearful, depressed, hopeless shell of a person.
I'd advise you to stop trying to indoctrinate him and get him into therapy but I know people like you well enough to know you either won't do it for fear that the therapist won't share your poisonous world view and will alter the child's faith in biblegod, or you'll insist upon finding him one that shares your delusion and nothing will change.
When you come home from work one day and find that the hopelessness you've burdened him with has resulted in tragedy, I hope you understand that you were the entire cause of it. Not violent video games, rock music, R rated movies or any of the other things you fundies like to blame for your parenting failures. YOU.
Yes, why bother? Jesus is going to come and fix all your problems... way to screw up your kid, lady. My guess he's depressed not only because of screwy religious fervour, but there's something else bothering him too. If you were a good parent, you'd endeavour to find out what it is and help him fix it. Leave Jeebus out of the picture while doing so will probably help.
She is almost as mentally insane as the lady who drove her gay son to suicide because of her stupidity.
So, lady, don't be surprised if you come home from work one day and find your son dangling at the end of a rope. Enjoy!
yay, lets teach a child about the fact the world's going to end.
Thats not going to fuck him up in any way. At all.
Great fucking job. You convinced him that the world is going to end soon.
If you don't know why his grades are failing then you fail as a human. Why should he continue if the end of the world is coming?
'My 17 year old son had been a brilliant student in elementary and middle school, however, I convinced him of my rapture understanding. Suddenly, his grades plummeted.'
That's why fundy brainwashing doesn't work - quite often it doesn't have the intended effect; it often backfires. Not surprising, coming from a batshit insane website like Rapture Ready.
So you tell your son that death is imminent,and then are surprised that he subsequently has no interest in school?
I for one am shocked to my core.
and all this time they keep saying that atheist´s life is meaningless...
make you son a favor and give him some of the books from Richard Dawkins. Or better make him read the bible, this for sure is going to make him do his best just for god´s annoyance
Good work you fucking idiot. Someone really should have traced his IP back then and reported him to social services. This kind of shit is disgusting. You've potentially fucked up your son's life, turned him into a religious nutjob like yourself and when nothing happens you're going to look really fucking stupid.
Do you think Jesus cares about people's GPA? If not, then why are you worried about your son's grades if the rapture will happen in the "very near future"?
I'm guessing that though you might have been able to fool your son, you haven't really managed to fool yourself. Have you?
So, why are you so worried?
I see two possibilities:
* Not so sure that the Rapture is eminent (I know that's a big word -- it means "in the near future"), meaning you're a failure in your own faith.
@MBD: "Not so sure that the Rapture is eminent (I know that's a big word -- it means "in the near future")"
(Psst. That's "imminent", "eminent" means imposing, outstanding, etc.)
@David B:
Dang it, I looked it up, corrected it, then in a later edit, misspelled it again.
"My view is that the rapture will happen in the very near future"
Will you be saying that when you're on your deathbed, wheezing out your last, and only then will you realise that you were taken in by the greatest con-trick upon humanity. To paraphrase PT Barnum:
'There's a sucker born again every minute.'
And only then, at the end, will you understand. That you wasted your life on pointless waiting & praying, praying & waiting, ad infinitum, ad nauseam. When you could've been doing so many fun and interesting things in the meantime. Including getting a good education so that one can get a good job, and generally contribute to humanity.
Well, that's the same fate you've condemned your son to.
And more reason why I think that not only is right-wing Fundamentalist Christian dogma in the family essentially child abuse (see "Jesus Camp"), fundy Xtianity as a whole should be illegal.
You're the reason why, Daisy.
So you filled your son's head with fundy drivel and bible fiction, telling him that there's no point to anything in this life, as one should only focus on the destruction of the world because you all will finally get to go to heaven....
Yeah, I'd be depressed too. Poor kid.
Serve you right! If you tell your son "we're all gonna die in a few months/years", what purpose do his studies serve for him? According to you, he's never going to be able to use his knowledge in a job or further studies. He's just going to die, soon.
Maybe if you say "Christ said he'd return 'in a few years', but as that was almost 2000 years ago, it IS meaningful to get an education, as it might take another 2000 years before he actually comes back"?
I convinced him of my rapture understanding. Suddenly, his grades plummeted. He lost all interest in doing his school work. Basically, his attitude is...why bother.
Exactly. And technically, he'd be right (as much as I'd hate to encourage the shunning of an education).
But, this quote was posted three years ago, so this kid has either just turned 20 or is coming up on 21. I wonder if he's been able to reason his way out of that crackpot belief system.
Well, the doors of FSTDT are open to him (I hope), if he wants to come hang out here. >_>
And to think fundamentalists have this silly habit of accusing us atheists of having a bleak outlook on life. Of course the kid's going to be kicked screaming down a whole staircase of depression; World ending? Why bother. That kind of emotional abuse has no place in a young adult's most emotionally turbulent years.
Do good; Expunge death cults from culture. Teach the value of life and knowledge.
Really bitch are you that stupid?! You didn't think telling your son that the world is going to end soon is not going to negativity effect him? If you want to die that badly, just be an hero now so don't damage you son life anymore. And, poor kid, I can really understand his pain. I was depressed as hell for a while with that same though.
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wow you are one fucked up woman..
Why would you want to break your son's spirit like that?
I Hope you DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE BITCH!
sounds like the 17 year old has a better grasp of the obvious than you do. If the rapture is happening soon then he will either be taken and will not need his high school education or he will be left behind and suffer the tribulation.
either way he will not lead a normal life with job, girlfriend-wife , kids and a mortgage so why bother trying.
well done.
"My view is that the rapture will happen in the very near future."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czm7AvEo8IU
Alan Davies: 'Was this in America, by any chance?'
Stephen Fry: 'How did you guess?!' [/hyper-sarcasm]
AD: 'They won't learn, will they?!'
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'The Rapture is imminent .'
-Stephen Fry, "QI"
Eh, on reflection I call Poe.
The RR lot loves nothing more than portraying their families as perfect. The one problem they will cop to is, "Help! My family isn't as fanatical as I am!" Here's one essentially bragging that her son has taken the idea of The Rapture too seriously. No way they would admit to such a thing says I.
THIS is why if I ever have kids I don't want fundies near them.
And of course the whole paedophilia thing, but this too.
"My view is that the rapture will happen in the very near future. "
My view is that you're just another fundie bitch that fucked up her unfortunate kid using religion.
Now which of our views is more likely correct? Which one is there more direct evidence for? You fucking up your kid, or the "rapture" happening in "the very near future"?
And yet you use the term "successfully"? It it was so successful, why would you need to "correct his understanding"?
It sounds like this is what you wanted from the beginning, you sorry excuse for a parent.
"I've been working for months to correct his understanding, but to no avail."
You should have thought of that before you told him "we're going to die in the near-future, anyway".
Confused?
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