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#666090
Scion
But it IS free isn't it? Jesus is the cure and all that? In any case I'll take a pass. There's nothing wrong with being gay.
9/3/2008 7:15:53 AM
#666108
clockworkgirl21
If ex-gay therapy were free, would you see a therapist?
No.
I've been talking with some of my fellow Christians on ways to roll back the epidemic within our Christian nation. By setting up a religious insurance company, concerned families can sign up, and, in the event a spiritual disease occurs, the afflicted individual can be taken to treatment so he/she can be made straight again
Hopefully they'll have some real medical insurance for when they loose their mind after that.
There will also be charity care as well, as there will certainly be donations from well wishers who want to help their fellow human beings overcome their same sex attractions and improve on their heterosexual potential
Maybe they can use some of that money to go to a real doctor afterwards and stop repressing their sexuality.
If this led to free ex-gay reparative therapy, would you sign up as a patient?
Hell no.
9/3/2008 7:31:26 AM
#666112
Jay-Sus
HOMOSEXUALITY DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY!!!
9/3/2008 7:45:19 AM
#666118
semimeh.
an interesting line of thought, excepting the fact that: with over 30 years of data, 'ex-gay therapy' has been pretty much proven ineffective.
Also, shouldn't a responsible church be helping it's members with these 'spiritual diseases' anyway? Why should a christian have to pay to become ex-gay? (hey, that rhymes!)
Thank you come again.
9/3/2008 7:49:40 AM
#666123
Bri
heterosexual potential. Why do I find that phrase and all the mental images it generates so hilarious?
9/3/2008 7:54:11 AM
#666125
alex77
No. And why in the seven hells is it so important to you or your God with whom I sleep and live happy together?
9/3/2008 7:59:16 AM
#666127
alex77
No. And why in the seven hells is it so important to you or your God with whom I sleep and live happy together?
9/3/2008 7:59:17 AM
#666131
inmate22841
More interested in therapy to make my wife a bit bi.
9/3/2008 8:13:00 AM
#666140
Jacob
There's a fucking scam if ever I saw one.
9/3/2008 8:20:01 AM
#666185
Gay is neither an illness nor contagious. Which speaks tons of your ignorance on medicine and psychology.
9/3/2008 8:44:20 AM
#666227
Cabraxas
Speaking as a heterosexual, NO, I would not.
Your reasoning is flawed on so many levels. Homosexuality is not a choice. It is not a disease. There is no 'cure' where a homosexual can be made 'straight', and they do not need to 'improve on their heterosexual potential'.
I find your arrogance presumptuous and offensive. Sexual preference is a personal thing and not something to be judged by others. A homosexual has all the same rights as a hetero. Just leave them alone.
9/3/2008 9:15:22 AM
#666318
IanC
reparative "therapy" is a bunch of BS - it does not work!! It just leads to people denying who they really are.
9/3/2008 10:09:05 AM
#666369
Nowonmai
There is no such thing as Ex-Gay. There are bisexuals who choose one only, or gays living a lie.
9/3/2008 11:04:46 AM
#666387
David B.
From the AMA statement on homosexuality:
"[The AMA] opposes, the use of "reparative" or "conversion" therapy that is based upon the assumption that homosexuality per se is a mental disorder or based upon the a priori assumption that the patient should change his/her homosexual orientation."
From the APA statement on homosexuality:
"THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the American Psychological Association “urges all mental health professionals to take the lead in removing the stigma of mental illness that has long been associated with homosexual orientation” (Conger, 1975, p. 633); and
THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that the American Psychological Association opposes portrayals of lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth and adults as mentally ill due to their sexual orientation and supports the dissemination of accurate information about sexual orientation, and mental health, and appropriate interventions in order to counteract bias that is based in ignorance or unfounded beliefs about sexual orientation."
(The whole thing is worth reading.)
So if a procedure specifically rejected by the APA and AMA was made freely available, would I use it? Hmm, let me think...
Say, did you know that being repeatedly hit over the head with a lead pipe will stop you from ever having impure thoughts? It's not AMA or church approved or anything, but a guy I know will do it for free, so you'd be up for it, right?
9/3/2008 11:19:04 AM
#666392
Xotan
Ex-gay therapy is charlatanism! It's dishonest and it's an interference with the right of people to live a free and unhindered life.
I suspect that what is being proposed is unconstitutional.
9/3/2008 11:22:35 AM
#666402
Sure, reparative "therapy" may not cost any money; instead, the cost will be paid by the psychological scars inflicted on the poor patient who doesn't need therapy for homosexuality in the first place.
On the other hand, I'd gladly help pay for fundies to go to counseling to get over their delusions.
9/3/2008 11:32:24 AM
#666480
Mister Spak
You could also set up a christian health insurance plan where you pay me money, and if you get sick people will pray for you. This treatment works much better than the evolutionistic doctors and their evolutionismistic antibiotics.
9/3/2008 12:25:03 PM
#666502
Secret Squirrel
Retarded fundies hand over a load of money, and if they magically become gay they get something - anything - back. Wow. Sounds like a pretty good business model to me, as long as Rapture Ready will allow advertising...
9/3/2008 12:39:04 PM
#666509
GreenEyedLilo
You know, I am a fiend for free stuff. My grandfather used to tell me that "money isn't the only currency you've got." My mother used to warn me that "sometimes things that look free end up being very expensive in the long run." I am remembering their wisdom now.
Oh, and while I'm same-sex married, I do have "heterosexual potential." (Those of you who use the forums see someone who excites my "heterosexual potential," Tony Stewart, in my icon.) I am 50/50, in fact. I think I made a wise choice, and am grateful that I could. I am sick of the religious right's calling my ability to love a disease and treating me and mine like "patients."
9/3/2008 12:45:11 PM
#666565
Garfield
I'm not gay, but if I was - HELL NO! I would NOT sign up for your crazy ass shit! It doesn't work that way!
9/3/2008 1:21:56 PM
#666566
Firthy2002
Whenever someone mentions ex-gays I'll always be reminded of that South Park episode where Butters gets sent to ex-gay camp.
9/3/2008 1:22:10 PM
#666663
aaa
No.
9/3/2008 2:09:13 PM
#666738
Cabraxas
@ Mister Spak,,,,,,, evolutionismistic? OUCH ! (but LOL)
9/3/2008 2:45:02 PM
#666795
Jamie
Speaking as a quite happy homosexual in a loving relationship, I say to you this. Even if you paid me to come to your "pray the gay away" business, I would refuse.
9/3/2008 3:16:24 PM
#666803
ArmandT
Well, it would never be free. Vultures know a pot of gold when they see one, with so many fundies in the closet. And even if the 'therapy' itself is free, it'll be no different to Scientologist's 'free stress test' in the end.
Thanks but no thanks. Ex-gay therapy does no more than push conflicted gays further into the closet.
9/3/2008 3:32:33 PM
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