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Some might want to address some of your other rants, but this one I had to repost. What about Hitler, Communism and Nazism?

Among the most bitter fruits of evolutionism are the unspeakably cruel systems fathered by Karl Marx (followed by Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc.) and by Adolf Hitler (who was building on the ideas of Nietzsche and Haeckel and others). It is arguable whether communism (with its anarchist and socialist cousins) or Nazism (with Mussolini's fascism and similar dictatorships) have produced the greater amounts of death and suffering in the world, but both were and are vile and deadly.

It is very significant, therefore, that both Marx and Hitler, with all their respective forbears, associates and successors, were doctrinaire evolutionists, trying to build their respective societies on evolutionary premises. There is abundant documentation of this assessment and, in fact, few would even question it.

Angelos, Gamers4Jesus 41 Comments [9/22/2008 12:22:43 AM]
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dpareja

Which is why Hitler banned The Origin of Species and Soviet science classes taught Lysenkoism.

9/22/2008 12:29:17 AM

werewolf

Really, console gaming rots the brain.

Have you read Das Kapital? The little red book of Mao's? Any modern history book?

Thought not.

9/22/2008 12:40:33 AM

Doctor Whom

In addition to what's been said, Mein Kampf often referred to the Creator and creation and flatly denied the possibility of what you nimrods call macroevolution.

9/22/2008 12:49:34 AM

RealCommie

You're forgetting the other people who followed Karl Marx (Pannekoek, Luxembourg, Liebknecht). If only their ideas had gotten a chance we might have communism (NOT soviet state capitalism) all over the world today along with free speech, democracy, and even freedom of religion. By now we could've even transitioned from a socialist society (still has a state i.e. still uses prisons for social control) to a communist society (no state i.e. all social control is from ostracism).

9/22/2008 12:52:30 AM

Shadow Boxer

What these sorts of people seem ignorant of, is that evolution is a description and an explanation of the diversity of life on this planet. It is not, and never should be, an instruction manual on how to run a society, or live your life. This is just bizarre! Why don't they understand this???

9/22/2008 12:59:38 AM

John

BTW, Marx and Engels wrote the Communist Manifesto a decade before Darwin wrote the Origin of Species. And in the Soviet Union, Lysenko enforced a kind of Lamarckism that stalled Soviet biology for decades.

9/22/2008 1:23:01 AM

Andreus

Even if Hitler believed in evolution, that doesn't indicated anything about evolutionists - unless, say, Christian paedophiles indicate something about Christians.

9/22/2008 1:33:34 AM

anonymous_troy

I don't know what evolutionism is, but evolution is just a scientific theory that explains how life came to its current form.

There are no morals based on evolution, as it does not recommend any particular action, but rather explains evidence.

9/22/2008 1:52:29 AM

Detrs

Come back when you actually know something.

9/22/2008 2:04:56 AM

ozznova

Way to misspell Hegel.

Also uh, Hitler was a loud Christian. Gott mitt us?

9/22/2008 2:08:39 AM

ArmandT

Do we NEED to quote Mein Kampf 3 times a day on this site?

9/22/2008 2:15:05 AM

WMDKitty

Sorry, but those guys were, for the most part, Christians, and used that to control their followers. You FAIL.

9/22/2008 2:39:58 AM

Porky Pine

That whole site is one big fail. One of the posters was getting the better of them so they lock the thread.

9/22/2008 2:47:48 AM

Michael

Having lived under Hitler AND Stalin.
Firstly, you have absolutely NO idea what you are ranting about. You have never lived there, I have.
Extremism in any form is an insult to humanity, but the very worst extremism of all is religion, especially Christianity which thrives on paranoia, fear, ignorance and bare-faced stupidity.
Darwin was banned under Hitler, Mein Kampf and the Bible required reading.
Darwin was also banned by Stalin.
You have no idea WHAT communism is - the closest form is an Israeli Kibbutz. The "communism" we had we just personality cults gone wild.

9/22/2008 2:58:21 AM

Rorschach

Wow....Godwin's law on the first one I see today


Christ this whole "Hitler is an evil-lutionist!!!" crap is getting old

9/22/2008 3:03:00 AM

The Outsider

Roughly 90% of people who live in Scandinavian countries accept the theory of evolution. Why aren't all of those people communists?

9/22/2008 3:11:44 AM

Mike


9/22/2008 3:20:57 AM

Nowonmai

Angelo, a few facts for you: Hitler was a Christian, and he banned Origin of the Species. He needed to have it banned to pedal his "Master Race" bullshit.


9/22/2008 3:44:32 AM

Sasha

It is also very significant that your post is full of lies. What can we deduce about Christians based on your example?

9/22/2008 4:20:10 AM

Slayer

Hitler was a Christian:

My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.

-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922

If you say Evolutions is bad because Hitler used it as an excuse to do bad things, then Christianity is bad for the same reason.

9/22/2008 4:41:12 AM

Rubyfruit

How many people quoted here wind up confusing the Theory of Evolution with Social Darwinism?

How many?

9/22/2008 4:42:51 AM

Larty

Not this religious propaganda shit again.

9/22/2008 7:05:58 AM

JD

"Gott Mit Uns"

9/22/2008 9:11:41 AM

Panz

Hitler Gott mit uns that trnaslates to God with us, not got mittuns

As for the others you mentioned, ever noticed the power they wanted and never at one time said anything like "Stomp the holy for ATHEISM"

9/22/2008 9:16:32 AM

aaa

Godwin.

9/22/2008 9:49:35 AM

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