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Therefore, whether the Romanists liar likes it or not, God wrestled against Himself exactly as man would wrestle with his own children in play. and exactly as God killed Himself through the means of the Romans on the request of the Jews at His express counsel to save His people from His Own wrath: in absolute lack of the free will of man.
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God killed Himself through the means of the Romans on the request of the Jews at His express counsel to save His people from His Own wrath:
Yet when we put it that way, you take offense and claim that we are distorting Scripture to mock it.
I don't get it... Why did God have to kill himself?
I may not be reading this right, but what I'm getting from this is that he had to kill himself because he himself said that he had to kill himself...
Is this supposed to give "clarity"? I still do not get why god had to kill himself to save his children from his own wrath. It doesn't sound omipotent to me.
What's with the -isms and -ists? Evolutionists, Romanists ... am I a europeanist? A gravitist? A wears-his-on-the-leftist?
So let me get this right.
Your imaginary friend created us without freewill so by your argument we were already predestined to fall into sin as we had no choice?
And you want me to worhip this sadistic imaginary friend of yours?
Get fucked.
If we have no free will why try to convert people? God either wills them to convert or not to convert and your actions will have no bearing on that.
Oh wait. If there's no free will then I guess you're doomed to try to convert more people even though it's pointless because those people have no free will about whether or not they will be converted. Unless of course God wills that you stop trying to convert people.
With no free will that means if I'm going to heaven I'm going there no matter what and if I'm going to hell I'm going there no matter what so I might as well enjoy my life without worrying about your sky daddy, but I suppose I must have been predetermined to do that anyways.
Wrestling? What is this, Heavenly Smackdown?
No free will? Then it's pointless evangelizing and proselytizing, because if we're destined to be a christian, we will, and if not, then we won't. Oh, prayer is pointless too. Because jehovah the benevolent sky fairy has already foreordained what will happen, no matter how much we pray to the contrary. And who are the Romanists? The Catholics? God wrestled with himself, probably because no one would play with him, the childish bastard. And God is suicidal. He's getting weirder by the day. I'm sure glad I left all that bullshit behind.
Edit: I missed the "to save His people from His own wrath" bit. Yeah, that's real fucking clear. Thanks for clearing all of that up for us. It's a good thing we had already figured out your god is a sadistic fuck long ago. It's "clear" why we don't believe in nor worship such a childish retard.
Let me get this straight: you believe your god killed himself (in my part of the woods, that's referred to as suicide and is considered a mortal sin) because he wanted to protect some primitive tribe from his anger and angst? Therefore, you conclude man doesn't have free will.
Do you see the stupid disconnect in these statements? No, probably not.
Whazzat?
I gather that you reject the concept of free will. Why?
To whom do you refer by "the Romanists?" Are you another anti-Catholic kook? We've had a shitload of those this month...
When did "God wrestle?" Are you referring to the being (commonly believed to be your god) who LOST a wrestling match to Jacob - an ordinary human - in Genesis 32?
Using the word "clarity" in the title of this article is truly laughable. This is one confused mess.
if you didn't understand this quote, try going to this website, i will bet you that your brain will liquify within twenty seconds from the sheer un-clarity of it all. seriously, this website is one big mess of a word salad.
from Christian Clarity Review .
Oh! I get it now! It all makes perfect
And I see this joke has been done to death already.
*goes to website*
Things are so much, er, clearer now.
Apart from the 'God was in Him as Word and Spirit through Abraham.' Not to sure what that means. Is it something to do with Smurfs?
This violates, like, ALL of Christian theology.
Also from the site: "It is not the problem of God’s servants if the people are deceived, because of their other deceptions concerning speech, that it is pointless to talk to rocks. It is only pointless to talk to rocks and the dead in non-creating speech. But in speaking to and in the deception of the people, Moses and Aaron were not allowed to enter the land". WHAT? So, we should talk to rocks in "creating speech"?
Fantastic! This dolt manages to insult Catholics and Jews AND to deny one of the fundamental tenets of Judeo-Christian theology (that God gave his creations the ability to do the one thing He cannot do: the ability to exercise free will to choose goodness), all in the space of two paragraphs.
I'm impressed with this idiocy being in a so-called 'Christian' magazine.
There is no free will to use at all.
What? None?
in absolute lack of the free will of man.
Wait... so God is going to punish me for doing what he created me to do... something I had no choice about...
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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