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Yes, but at what point did plant evolutionary lineages diverge from animal evolutionary lineages? Why do we have two vastly distinct groups, yet multiple sub groups within each?

So why not teach ID in schools? I think it needs to be offered as an OPTION to scientific THEORY's on how life began.

Life either began from nothing, or we are designed. Since there is very weak evidence on how life began, or how the universe formed, intelligent design needs to be implemented into science courses to offer some real alternative to why we may be here.

Cheesecake, WoW Offtopic 21 Comments [11/5/2008 11:19:29 AM]
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DarkfireTaimatsu

"I don't know, it were magic" is not a "real alternative".

11/5/2008 11:20:51 AM

Apothecary

You comment on how there is "very weak evidence" on how life began, then you go and propose a idea with absolutely no evidence as a replacement?

11/5/2008 11:25:35 AM

Mortok

Is the username a reference to what your brain is made of?

11/5/2008 11:28:21 AM

solomongrundy

Sheesh, I remember studying Euglena in first-year biology.
As I recall they're mobile and can eat and digest smaller organisms and yet have chloroplasts and can photosynthesize. Some animal features, some plant features. The division isn't as clear-cut as you seem to think.

11/5/2008 11:30:26 AM

Ionakana

Let's see what your argument is worth:

False dichotomy - 1 point.

Failure to understand the specific definition of the word "theory" within a scientific context - 1 point.

Misuse of an apostrophe - definitely 3 points for that.

Congratulations, you're a fundie.


11/5/2008 11:50:53 AM

Sanity

so why not teach Astrology in in schools? I think it needs to be offered as an OPTION to scientific THEORY's on how to universe works.

so why not teach Alchemy in in schools? I think it needs to be offered as an OPTION to scientific THEORY's on how to chemicals work.

so why not teach flat-earthism in in schools? I think it needs to be offered as an OPTION to scientific THEORY's on how the world looks.

See my point?

11/5/2008 11:50:53 AM



Here's your answer, moron.


11/5/2008 12:10:24 PM

John-in-Oz

Do your own bloody homework!

11/5/2008 12:50:09 PM

Mister Spak

"So why not teach ID in schools? I think it needs to be offered as an OPTION to scientific THEORY's on how life began. "

Because ID is a MYTH and does not belong in SCIENCE class.

11/5/2008 2:16:11 PM

FMG

1. This is ignoring the fungi "kingdom" which is a somewhat intermediary between animal and plant.

2. Because "God Did It" is not science.

3. It's not a real alternative cause it does not explain how our designer came about.

11/5/2008 2:29:52 PM

anonymous

ID doesn't teach us anything, though. With evolution we know that birds and dinosaurs are close enough that birds have the DNA for teeth and long tails left, and scientists have re-activated this DNA to produce hilarious teethed chickens.

With ID, it's all 'idk goddidit'

11/5/2008 2:34:56 PM

Blackclaw

I think we should teach all sides of every subject.

Sure most people say 2+2=4 but why not allow students to decide for themselves that it might = 5?

In opposition to the theory of gravity, why not teach the theory that we are held onto the planet not by some invisible force but rather by the weight of our sins? (Did you know that heavy rocks are big sinners? Totally true.)

11/5/2008 2:40:49 PM

aaa

Sigh...

11/5/2008 3:38:03 PM

Pedantic Twit

Yes, but at what point did plant evolutionary lineages diverge from animal evolutionary lineages? Why do we have two vastly distinct groups, yet multiple sub groups within each?

What, you mean exactly how evolutionary theory would predict? Gee. Totally beats me.

11/5/2008 4:32:32 PM

Old Viking

Evolution has nothing whatsoever to do with how the universe or life began.

11/6/2008 2:02:36 AM

Brain_In_A_Jar

Yes, but at what point did plant evolutionary lineages diverge from animal evolutionary lineages? Why do we have two vastly distinct groups, yet multiple sub groups within each?

A question, properly posed, is frequently its own answer. It requires absolutely negligible mental effort to deduce, from the information implicit in your second, qualifying sentence, that the differentiation of terrestrial life into plant and animal kingdoms occured early on, before all the subsequent branching within those kingdoms.

10/14/2009 10:44:04 AM

Allegory for Jesus

Plants and animals diverged from one another and one would expect them to be very distinct, because they descended from groups that haven't been able to interbreed with one another over the course of a few billion years.
ID shouldn't be taught because it isn't science, and isn't even logical. Also: a scientific theory is not a layman's conjecture.
There may be weak evidence on how life began, but the evidence for the process of evolution AFTER life had already begun is fairly decent. So no alternative needed.

9/11/2010 6:53:45 PM

Justanotheratheist

Goddidit is not science. Nor is it a theory. It belongs in a classroom like a polar bear belongs in the Sahara.

9/12/2010 1:51:38 AM

Swede

I'd say that animals diverged from the plant lineage, or that they diverged in two different directions. However, these two are not the only "vastly distinct groups"; what about bacteria and fungi?

Christian Creationism belongs in Religion Classes, and should be taught alongside all the other creation stories.
Only scientific theories should be taught in Science Classes.

Another false dichotomy; Life could also have begun from something.
As soon as ID has formed a hypothesis, been peer-reviewed and shown to be falsifiable, and been proven enough to become a scientific theory, then it can be implemented into science courses.

9/12/2010 2:34:23 AM

Canadiest

And you have to divorce the ID concept from your brand of Christianity before it becomes a theory.

Christianity is what you're trying to get in schools, not a scientific consenses or even a plausible, coherent, or fact based conclusion. ID is a smokescreen for religious indoctrination.

9/12/2010 10:03:28 AM

Sentry Gun

Can you remind me what practical applications ID have ?

Oh, right, it does not have any use. Let's spend your belloved tax dollars to teach younglings useless horse shit.

3/9/2012 7:48:33 AM

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