Quote# 52184

[On a video about wicca is a cult]

Atheist: And like christianity isnt? Just remember who is the christian wearing the mask.

The Fundy: You obviously do not know what a cult is, if you believe that Christianity is one.

Eelman4, Youtube 39 Comments [11/14/2008 2:40:11 AM]
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noJungleKiss

I know what a cult is. A cult is a religion with no political power.

11/14/2008 2:44:09 AM

GreenEyedLilo

"Religions are just cults with millions more members."--bumper sticker I saw.

11/14/2008 2:45:49 AM

john

My religion isn't a cult - yours is! Nya nya!

11/14/2008 2:46:06 AM

Dark_Lord_Prime

"You obviously do not know what a cult is, if you believe that Christianity isn't one."

Fixed!

11/14/2008 2:52:06 AM

Hazor

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cult

Yep. That pretty much covers Christianity.

11/14/2008 3:06:03 AM

WMDKitty

Um... except that Christianity fits the definition *perfectly*, as well as raising all the little red flags...

11/14/2008 3:12:32 AM

thejebusfire

Cults are groups of religious extremist that brainwash people and make it almost impossible to leave.

And yes, christianity does have it's share of cults.

11/14/2008 3:13:41 AM

Nowonmai

Ahh dammit! You just blew the fuses in my new irony meter!

11/14/2008 3:29:08 AM

Jay-Sus

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck it's a cult.

11/14/2008 3:30:59 AM



Uh, actually, Wicca is MUCH less a cult than Christianity. So, you fail!

11/14/2008 3:31:23 AM

Mortok

Q: What's the difference between a cult and a religion?

A: Tax exempt status.

11/14/2008 3:32:28 AM

Amanda

This so called "new religion" is nothing but a pack of weird rituals and
chants designed to take away the money of fools. Let us say the Lord's
prayer 40 times, but first let's pass the collection plate!
-- Reverend Lovejoy's church sermon, "The Joy of Sect"

One of my favourite quotes from the Simpsons.

11/14/2008 3:33:19 AM

Ken

Once a Christian told me that the difference between Christianity and a cult is that cults practice idol worship. Riiiiight.

11/14/2008 3:47:19 AM

Beeblebrox

You obviously do not know what a cult is, if you believe that Christianity is one.

http://www.cultclinic.org/qa1.html

Destructive Cult Characteristics:

1. Self-appointed messianic leader(s) who focuses followers’ veneration upon him or her, claims divine selection, and exercises autocratic control over members’ lives.
2. Use of deception and misrepresentation for purposes of recruitment, retention and fundraising.
3. Techniques aimed at controlling individual thought and personal privacy that frequently lead to a coerced reconstitution of personality.

A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO:

* Give total and unquestioning loyalty to a leader as a living deity or prophet.
* Use deception and manipulation to recruit and keep members.

HAS A LEADER (OR LEADERS) WHO:

* Is charismatic.
* Holds a uniquely exalted position.
* Claims an exclusive relationship with God, truth, happiness, etc.

THE GROUP EXPECTS:

* Complete and total loyalty and obedience to the leader.
* Complete and literal acceptance of the leader’s teachings.
* Unquestioning devotion to the group and its leader


11/14/2008 4:05:13 AM

Headache

The Fundy: You obviously do not know what a cult is, if you believe that Christianity is one.

Actually, you are correct!

Christianity is not ONE cult, it is comprised of several thousand different cults.

11/14/2008 4:16:07 AM

Allegory for Jesus

You obviously don't know what a cult is if you think that Christianity isn't one.

11/14/2008 4:48:28 AM

anonymous

Christianity is simply so large and mostly nonviolent [though used as an excuse for lots of stupidity] that we call it a religion, but they're basically the same thing.

11/14/2008 4:49:51 AM

Osiris

What the fuck IS a cult anyway?

11/14/2008 5:02:53 AM

Elia

I think it can be safely said that the group you belong to, whatever names it goes by, would qualify as a "cult".

11/14/2008 5:05:31 AM

Papabear

Christianity IS a cult, it just happens to be the biggest cult.

11/14/2008 6:02:45 AM

Wondershock

I clicked the link and was rickrolled. This is a Poe. Fuck.

11/14/2008 6:25:33 AM



Christianity isn't a cult? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - oh wait, you're serious?

11/14/2008 7:19:21 AM

Wandering Discordian

It is a rickroll... and that exchange did happen. Well, damn.

But I gotta say, it appears, from what Beeblebrox quoted, Christianity is quite cultish and my beloved Discordianism is very much not. That's... that's messed up!

11/14/2008 7:25:27 AM

Grimesy

Isn't a cult just a religion that a country doesn't like. i.e. Scientology in France.

11/14/2008 7:35:17 AM

SteelyDanorak

Let's pay some respect to language here. The atheists who post on this site think that Christianity is complete BS and that's fine. Calling it a cult doesn't make that any more or less true and confuses the issue.

Cults are (usually esoteric) minorities within a larger religious grouping, isolated from the main body and unable or unwilling to engage in rational diaologue with it. They are exclusive, self-righteous and deeply hostile to all who challenge their credentials. I'd say that fundies have a cult mentality although not all of them are separatist and may belong to mainstream churches. Liberal Christians do their level best to be the exact opposite of all this and will make common cause with atheists on matters of justice (e.g. gay marriage) as no fundie will ever do. We might still talk BS, but spare us the "cult" label, it's just not accurate.

11/14/2008 7:54:05 AM

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