(In response to the question, "Christians: a friend of mine is a Christian and claims God answered her friends prayers and healed her cancer. So could you pray for my other friend who is an amputee so that he can get his leg back?")
He heals the sick
not having a leg doesn't make him sick, he just doesn't have a leg.
so stop trying to prove a false point.
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Wait, haven't we heard some fundies say that god can and will give people their legs back? That there's no such thing as a disabled person, that they just need to trust god to give them their body parts back? Now I'M confused.
A lot of fundies claim God heals the amputees, but you go and say "NO" so... someone is lying.
So much for "Christians are not liars". And don't try to pull a "No true scotsman" on me.
He heals the sick. Not having a leg doesn't make him sick, he just doesn't have a leg.
They say there are no atheists in foxholes. The same is true for people who have just been told their biopsy came back positive. I would imagine most people who have cancer pray. Why aren't they all cured? Why are Bible-believing, praying people with prostate cancer, for which there are fairly effective human medical treatments, often cured, while the same people with brain cancer, for which there isn't much treatment, not cured?
Jesus healed blind people, but they weren't sick, they just couldn't see.
Could these retards have any less of a grasp on logic?
But he killed a fig tree.
Out of season and all, but think about it..A FUCKING TREE. Not only is that completely stupid, but defeats his purpose for coming to earth.
It has nothing to do with healing. It has everything to do with prayer answering. According to the Bible, prayers by believers get answered. No matter how impossible they may seem. If God can miraculously shield people who are in car accidents and cure cancer, growing limbs back should be just as easy. Yet, only the first two things have reliable eye-witness accounts. Why is that?
Actually, I don't find this particularly fundy. Maybe I'm just feeling conciliatory today, but he seems reasonable. He based his argument on 'he heals the sick' which admittedly seems somewhat 'made up' and not directly backed by the bible. But assuming 'he heals the sick' is sound doctrine, he is actually being reasonable and logical when he points out that while having an incomplete set of organs or limbs may be unpleasant in and of itself, it is not what we usually consider 'illness'. As Old Viking points out, it basically limits God to be able to do what medicine does, conveniently enough.
Matthew
7:7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 7:8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
17:20 And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
21:22 And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
That's just from one book, I couldn't be bothered to post the whole list, so I'd say you fail at your own religion
He heals the sick
not having a leg doesn't make him sick, he just doesn't have a leg.
so stop trying to prove a false point.
John 11:43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.
11:44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.
Lazarus wasn't sick either. It seems to me if Jehovah can raise the dead, He could handle a simple missing leg.
"He heals the sick
not having a leg doesn't make him sick, he just doesn't have a leg."
Lame cop-out for an obviously valid point.
Fine, not having a leg doesn't qualify this gentleman as "sick."
Now, name one instance where your God actually did - and provably, as in with physical evidence a qualified medical professional can study - heal any person of any ailment so small as a hangnail.
You'll pardon me if I don't hold my breath on this one.
Beeblebrox - maybe that's why they claim God heals the sick, a lot more often than they claim he raises the dead. It's easy enough to find some fortunate healing and attribute it to God, at least, easier than finding a case of a corpse getting up and walking.
He heals the sick
Except when he doesn't, apparently.
not having a leg doesn't make him sick, he just doesn't have a leg.
Let's hack off your leg, if it's 'just not having a leg', fucker.
so stop trying to prove a false point.
Not a false point. God doesn't heal amputees, because he can't. He also doesn't heal the sick, our immune system, modern medical science and docters do.
So wait a second- God only heals the sick? Why? Why not heal people who were a result of a birth defect? Why not heal people whose missing limb was a result of a car crash that they weren't responsible for? Why have such a difference in who you will heal and who you won't- besides the fact that "answered prayers" for sickness could easily be a result of science or coincidence, which is definately not true with an amputated leg?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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