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Why Do Atheists Hate America?

The nation's largest atheist group wants you to imagine a world without the Pledge of Allegiance, without faith, without patriotism, and without America as we know it. However, In God We Trust is standing up to them with a new advertising campaign that exposes how much the radical Atheist movement hates America and everything our nation stands for.

The Freedom from Religion Foundation has begun posting their "Imagine No Religion" billboards all across the country. So, In God We Trust has created our own billboard campaign asking "Why Do Atheists Hate America?"

Why does this particular atheist group seem to want to banish people of faith? Our sign doesn't say, ‘Imagine No Atheists.' All we want is a public debate. We want the atheists to defend some of the Anti-American statements they've made. Not only that, but we would like to know how ‘Imagine No Religion' is different than ‘Imagine No Christians' or ‘Imagine No Jews'? Think about what these atheists are really saying. ‘Imagine No Mother Theresa?' ‘Imagine No Martin Luther King, Jr.?' I guess that's the kind of world in which these atheists think we would all be better off living. We disagree, and we think most Americans feel the same way.

61 comments

old comment by Thejebusfire

The nation's largest atheist group wants you to imagine a world without the Pledge of Allegiance, without faith, without patriotism, and without America as we know it.

No, they just want you to stop shoving your religion on them.

Why do christians hate America? They want to force children to pray in schools, force creationism in schools, and treat gays and people of other religions like tehy are below them.

Think about what these atheists are really saying. Imagine No Mother Theresa?' Imagine No Martin Luther King, Jr.?'

Actually, it means "imagine a world with no religious zealots bombing each other or killing anyone who disagrees with them".

old comment by Allegory for Jesus

"imagine a world without the Pledge of Allegiance, without faith, without patriotism, and without America as we know it."

Pledge of Allegiance didn't even have the word "God" in it until recently, so it would be a return to the original version.
You can have all the faith you want, just STFU about it all already.
Same with patriotism.
America as you know it is a real shithole for anyone that isn't you.

"a new advertising campaign that exposes how much the radical Atheist movement hates America and everything our nation stands for."

We don't hate everything it stands for. We just hate everything you claim that it stands for.

"So, In God We Trust has created our own billboard campaign asking "Why Do Atheists Hate America?""

Sounds like something Stephen Colbert would say. Consider yourself prematurely parodied. That's how much you suck.

"Our sign doesn't say, Imagine No Atheists.' All we want is a public debate."

You do realize that the phrase "Imagine no religion" isn't about wishing away every religious person into the cornfield, right? And of course you want a "public debate"...they call it a mob.

"we would like to know how Imagine No Religion' is different than Imagine No Christians' or Imagine No Jews'? Think about what these atheists are really saying. Imagine No Mother Theresa?' Imagine No Martin Luther King, Jr.?'"

You are profoundly retarded. So many different levels of wrong.

Level, the first: "Religion" is not a group of people.
Level, the second: "Religion" is also not a historically oppressed minority(per your "Imagine no Jews" example).
Level, the third: "No Religion" does not mean that religious people would have never existed.
And, of course, any counterclaim about religion's role in making famous religious people do good things is of little consequence, since it is impossible to say whether they would or not have acted without their religious beliefs (or whether the world would be in a state where their actions were even needed).

If you are going to be a divisive asshole, please at least have the right reasons for doing so.

old comment by Kuyohashi

My dislike of America is more a dislike of the loud-mouthed, ignorant, bible-thumping, gun-toting NASCAR fanbase which seems to think they ARE America. Just because you're louder, does not make you the majority. I would dislike those types of people if they were Ethiopian, Australian, or Swedish. But America seems to lionize the ignorant and obnoxious, and so they are typified as such. To paraphrase a greater man then I, I like America; It's Americans I fear.

As for banishing faith, no. No no no. You misunderstand. We look forward to the day when religion is no longer a major issue, when people see beyond the colour of our souls, and to the content, understanding that the content has nothing to do with who you talk to in your private moments. By all means, believe, if it gives you meaning and comfort in your life. But the second you start preaching and condemning people to hell, that is crossing the line. Your faith should be your faith. You have no more right to preach then I do to brainwash your children into thinking they are platypuses.

You mention Mother Theresa and Martin Luthor King, Jr, saying that a world without religion would never have produced such good people. I counter that with, in a world where religion was not used as justification for racism, murder, poverty, oppression, and discrimination, such people would never be needed. A world without disaster needs no Superman, and a world without racism doesn't need MLK. In King's day, white supremacy was a religious edict. "God made them seperate", wasn't it?

No one is saying 'Imagine no Christians", but rather, "Imagine no Christianity"; not "Imagine no Jews", but "Imagine no Judaism". Religion has inspired the greatest atrocities in human history, from the exodus from Egypt, to the Diaspora, the pogroms in Eastern Europe, and the Holocaust which claimed not only Jews, but millions of Catholics, atheists and gypsies. That is what Christianity had wrought. And it continues. To this day, we have people murdering for Jesus. Baptists beating gays to death, Christian Identity calling for the extermination of non-whites, WBC cheering for the deaths of soldiers fighting for their beliefs. Do you want to know why atheists don't bomb abortion clinics? Not because we necessarily agree with the practice. It's because we know that we do not have the right to levy that kind of judgment on others. We are not perfect. Nobody is. Nobody ever was. We pass no judgment. Unlike you, who stands ever at the ready with your Big Red Marker of Righteousness, ready to label anything you don't like as a sin.

Likewise, you call atheists "Anti-American". I was unaware that Jesus was the President. As I said, I am not anti-American, more anti-ignorance, which seems to be a uniquely American trait these days. And what anti-American statements, exactly, are being made? Gay marriage? Forfend we let some citizens enjoy their lives with the ones they love and receive all the legal and societal benefits inherent to that. Socialized medicine? Oh no, we want to help the people not lose their house when they get sick! Troop withdrawal? You mean the troops who were sent into a country that has done nothing to you on the pretense that they had weapons of mass destruction? So does China, when are you invading them?

You want to make laws that do not reflect the absolute totality of your country's population. You want to legislate based on religion. Passing laws based on religious belief is unAmerican. After all, passing a law because "Jesus wants it", denies rights to the millions of Americans who do not believe in either Jesus, or in his divinity. And denying rights to one group of people runs counter to your beloved Constitution, I believe. "All men are created equal". So either the law provides protection and benefit to all, or it provides protection and benefit to none. If that sounds Communist, or anti-American to you, then I ask you, what is it to be American? Free speech? Hardly unique to the States. What else you got? Willingness to fight for what you believe in? Yeah, and Al-Qaida uses that as a recruitment poster.

What makes an American an American isn't where he was born, or how many guns he has, or how loud he shouts down opposition. It's how he treats his fellow man, even the ones he disagrees with. ALL men, created equal.