I would argue that without faith in God there is no intelligible evidence. Without God there can be no proofs, science, logic, morality. The proof of God is that without Him you couldn't prove anything at all.
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The ancient Greeks proved all sorts of stuff. They pretty much invented formal deductive proof and logic. They had a whole bunch of gods. So if you need god to prove stuff, why stop at one? Maybe the more gods you have, the more you can prove.
Let P be a finite set of all primes {p1, p2, p3, ...}.
Let M be the product of that set so that M = p1 * p2 * p3 * ...
Let N = M + 1.
Now N cannot be divisible by any of the primes in P (there is always a remainder of 1), so either N is prime and not a member of P, or N has prime factors that are not members of P.
GOD
Therefore for any P, P cannot be the set of all primes. Hence it is impossible to ever have a finite set containing all prime numbers, hence there are an infinity of prime numbers.
QED
By crikey, he's right! I never noticed that fifth step before!
Thinking along these lines, I would argue that without Eve and everyone's pet snake, we wouldn't have the knowledge necessary to use our intelligence.
Remember that god was withholding knowledge. Don't give him any credit in regard to philosophy.
Wait, so in order to be a logical person you have to believe in the illogical without proof?
Makes perfect fundie sense to me.
That makes no sense whatsoever. In fact, the more times I read it, the less sense it makes...and it didn't make any sense the first time. Victoruto, you excel at stupid.
And even WITH 'Faith', there is no proof that a 'God' exists. That's what empirical scientific evidence does - PROVE things. And that is where 'Faith' FAILS.
But then, 'Faith' is the deluded self-defence system that prevents you from asking the question: What if there is NO 'God'? And when we die, we rot.
"The proof of God is that without Him you couldn't prove anything at all."
With circular reasoning like that, I'm surprised you haven't joined Biblocality. But then, you'd probably be banned by Troy Brooks before long.
So...without believing in something, we can't prove anything. And we have nothing for this but your word alone.
...Right. Call me when you grow a few more brain cells.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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