Typical atheist...I don't know what it is but many atheist I have talked with will not ever believe that Jesus Christ is real historical person, many of them don't believe he existed at all (at least they don't want to admit it)...And Now I remember that quote in the bible that says whosoever denies that Christ has come in the flesh is of the spirit of the anti Christ....So you are 100% correct that your not dealing with flesh and blood...I have literally had death threats from atheist online..There hatred for God and the things of God is not normal.
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Lol, I've seen death threats from Christians online. Who gives a shit?
Also, present the evidence or shush.
1. There's little historical evidence that the Jesus Christ described by the Bible was an actual person. It's likely that Jesus was BASED on a real person.
2. There's plenty of people who deny Christ. Is there more than one Antichrist, or do we have to duke it out Highlander style?
3. Death threats? Liar. Check the Ten Commandments and see how well that holds with God.
Ancient Rome was, among other things, a bureaucracy. All I'd need to prove that Jesus existed is a single surviving copy of the order to carry out his execution. Gravy if you can provide documentation surrounding the crime(s) for which he was executed.
What? You can't provide that? No surprise.
I bet you love getting death threats, don't you? Each one you receive gives you a lovely little thrill, a frisson of desire to be martyred for your cause.
You shouldn't bother. All those Internet Tough Guys who threaten you with physical violence will never actually travel to your town and pay you a visit: their pocket money could never cover the bus ticket.
OH MY GOD, SOMEONE WAS MEAN ON THE INTERNETS!
Because you know, that never happens. Ever.
We don't believe he existed as a real historical person because there's not much evidence outside of the bible to back it up. And even if we conceded that he did exist as a man, how can you possibly prove that he was the son of god and did all the crap he supposedly did? You can't. Think for once in your life.
I'm an atheist and have seen (and agree with) the following expressed by most of the other people I've talked to who are also atheists (you'll note that neither of these is an absolute, something many Christians have problems with).
Jesus the human = most probably real.
Bible Jesus the Christ = most probably myth.
@ Mudak: Bad argument. Rome was a bureaucracy (of a kind) but it didn't have paper. Writing stuff down happened either on very temporary media (like wax tablets) or expensive ones (stone, wood, parchment). Thus, nothing like as much stuff got written down, and even less preserved, than in a modern, or even late medieval, state. There's really no reason why any record of the life or execution of an obscure Jewish preacher should ever have been made, let alone survived. There are personalities and events of much more contemporary importance in Palestine that we would know nothing whatever of if they hadn't caught the fancy of Josephus and been recorded by him. Of course, if Jesus' life had conformed to the fantasy version recorded in the Gospels (slaughter of innocents, zombies walking the streets of Jerusalem, etc.) it would have got recorded, very probably. But it didn't, so it wasn't. I think he was a real guy, but his followers had way too much imagination.
This is what pisses me off with these fucked up brain midgets over at RR. They can not get it into their microsized brains that I don't give a shit what their old fucked up bronze age fairy tale book tell them, it's a just a bunch of old crock that bears no resemblance to the real world we live in and if you are so fucking stupid that you think it is real and that I should follow what this crappy old piece of unpolished turd is telling me, you deserve to be dipped in Dijon mustard and fed to Polar bears!
Your entire post is a prime example of being home schooled by dumb asses.
Death threats online?
What did they threaten to do, reach down the wired and throttle you?
We don't hate anything that doesn't exist.
I don't know what it is but many atheist I have talked with will not ever believe that Jesus Christ is real historical person
Probably because there is no outside historical evidence for his existence.
And Now I remember that quote in the bible that says whosoever denies that Christ has come in the flesh is of the spirit of the anti Christ
Demonize the unbelievers anyway you can.
I have literally had death threats from atheist online
Trolls, probably. Either that, or lying for jeebus.
There hatred for God and the things of God is not normal
Where?
There is absolutely no acceptable evidence that Jesus Christ was a historic personage. The Gospels were written between 70 CE and to 100 CE, or from 40 to 70 years after the events they purport to describe.
@Psittacosis: The Egyptians were writing on papyrus long before the Roman Empire existed. The Dead Sea Scrolls are on papyrus and leather. And you maintain that the works of Roman poets and historians were written in wax or carved into stone?
Asking whether Jesus was a 'real' person minus all the mythology is a pretty pointless question.
It's like asking, in 2000 years time, "Was there a Dave of London?". Of course there was.
Maybe there was even a Dave who was a carpenter and a bit of a religious nut. Doesn't mean he walked on the Thames.
Doctor Funkenstein: There's plenty of people who deny Christ. Is there more than one Antichrist, or do we have to duke it out Highlander style?
That would be the most awesome religion ever.
"whosoever denies that Christ has come in the flesh is of the spirit of the anti Christ..."
We have millions of agnostics, atheists, and basically those that deny Christ even existed. I suppose that makes for like millions of Anti-Christs, huh?
Either that or your religion is just a big pile of shit and lots of people don't believe in it.
Dude people telling you to DIAF or "Go burn in your fantasy hell" is not a death threat, it is hyperbole to emphasize their dislike of you and any opinions you take.
Don't take it so literally... Pussy.
atheist. atheist. atheist. The plurality demon reigns!
your. There. If you call yourself Glory in print, you ought to be able to write. But you are not Glory . . . you are an arse.
Atheists don't hate God. What's to hate? We simply don't believe in any Gods, of all the hundreds that are worshipped around the world. You, 'Glory', only believe in one of them. That's very nearly none of them. Why, you're almost an atheist yourself!
As for Jesus, there may well have been a 'prophet' of that name at around the time in question; but there is scant recorded evidence of his existence. Evidence, that is, from those who recorded it at the time, not from people who wrote about him scores or hundreds of years later.
fergus
As there is little or no evidence of the existence of Jesus (or Yeshua ben Yussuff or whatever he might have been called), outside the Bible, we will refrain from "believing" that he was a real historical person that existed at all, until such evidence surfaces.
Do you believe that Xenu was a real historical person?
Your =/= you're
There =/= their
One atheist sent you death threats? Well, there's bound to be at least one idiot in any group.
(Or don't you understand plural, as well as the difference between your and you're, between there and their?)
Why would we hate an imaginary being? Do you hate Vishnu or Freya?
Confused?
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