While taking chemical engineering classes, our professor explained the laws of thermodynamics. Carefully reading and studing what was presented, on my own it became clear to me that evolution, i.e. life from nothing, one animal turning into another was against the laws of nature.
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WHY do so many of these people think that, with a few minutes' scanning of the material for an introductory science course, they think they understand more about it than the millions of people who have devoted their lives to it collectively for the last 150 years or more? This is a positively stupefying degree of hubris!
~David D.G.
you're probably misreading the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
According to your misread version of the 2nd LoTd, this is impossible.
*lifts a 1kg weight 1 meter*
I want you to go outside, look up in the sky, and tell me if you happen to see any open-air fusion reactors.
PROTIP: IT'S CALLED THE FUCKING SUN YOU RETARD.
What the hell do you call it when the blind are leading themselves?
No, no, no, what is against the laws of nature, is you surviving childhood.
R1200C: Sad to hear you gave up on the whole learning thing.
You read too carefully. Should've at least done some more, than just peek-a-boo inside the front cover of your books and scream/run like hell leaving a dust cloud behind.
Thermodynamics - nothing to do with evolution.
Evolution - not animals turning into another.
I think you never got pass your final exams. (Did you pass ANY exams at all?)
>>KR
Thermodynamics - nothing to do with evolution.
Evolution - not animals turning into another<<
Well, the second law of thermodynamics may provide a direction to time, and allow things to change. And change is required for evolution ...
But, yeah, R1200C Fails Physics Forever.
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Anon
Well, yeah. Maybe too strictly said that has nothing to do with it. Should've re-phrased it to something like has nothing to do with biological mechanisms and processes of evolution.
I've grown tired of nitpicking with these, who obviously are so lost, that they don't know that kind of subtle differences anyway.
You failed Thermodynamics, I perceive. I hope somebody as stupid as you never became a chemical engineer. If you DID, we are all in danger. Anything that you could design would have to be pretty flaky.
Chemical engineering may be a tad above your level. Try trash removal.
One animal turning into another, indeed. Evolution is not a movie trick or somesuch, dumbskull.
Carefully reading and studing what was presented
Well, then you hadn't read carefully enough.
Had you read carefully, you would have observed that the 2nd law of thermodynamics applies only for isolated systems .
And thats the key to biological evolution. We don't live in an isolated system on earth. There is a constant source of fresh energy from the outside: The sun.
And before the good solar energy wastes itself into heat entropy, life had placed itself between the sun and heat equilibrium.
Perhaps there was more wisdom in the old pagan religions which worshipped the sun as 'life-giver' than in the abrahamic religions which worship some strange concept of a "creator god".
Yes, I'm sure that the legions of fundies who parrot this idiotic argument all figured it out by themselves.
Applying the 2nd law of thermodynamics to evolution is like saying that you can't write better poetry with fewer words (never mind the fact that a giant power station keeps giving you new ones)
Fuck!
Thank fuck you came along and set us straight. Phew, we really dodged a bullet there.
"Hey guys!, y'know all that stuff we've been doing for years utilising the insights of evolutionary theory ? All that agriculture, medicine, animal husbandry and scientific research ? Yeah, well this student has worked out that it doesn't work. Ah well, back to the drawing board I guess"
Where shall we send your Nobel prize R1200C ?
Oh yeah, like we're gonna believe they came up with that all by themselves, rather than parroting it. If you're gonna repeat a dumb argument, at least don't try to tell people you came up with it.
Like Hell you did. Mistaking the difference as big as our Sun with a dead, ever cooling system is a Creationist slight of mind. Only people who trust Creationist mantras, blindly, accept that twisting of the Thermodynamic laws.
It's an ass backwards interpritation that anyone "Carefully reading and studing what was presented" couldn't make.
OK, during the day , go outside and look up. See that large glowing ball in the sky ? bright isn't it ? Thats the Sun.
If you work out what the Sun and thermodynamics have to do with each other you will feel silly.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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