Quote# 58525

[About FSTDT with the (old?) Admin's answers in bold.]

What is the goal of this site? Entertainment.
I guess it is entertaining to have a site that is 90% geared towards the hate of Christians. Even up to implying that they should be killed just for what they believe.

I don't get a lot of non-Christian submissions. Non-Christian quotes just don't get submitted to the site very often at all.
Which shows that your members are basically Atheists, and Satanists like yourself.

I allow people to say anything, I operate my site using a principle of minimal moderation.
Regardless of how many excuses you make for your sites content. What you allow on your site shapes what your site has become. If killing Christians is entertainment, then allowing it to be said is what you condone. Having the ability to delete comments like this on your site, but not choosing to because "you allow people to say anything" attitude. Is allowing, and approving what you actually think. Because when someone actually carries out what you allow on your site (killing people for what they believe), I'd like to see if you can get off the hook by using one of the lame excuses you use here. There is nothing you can say that will ever justify murder.

No one would care what fundies say if it weren't for the fact that they are trying to roll back civil rights in this country, rewrite the whole of history to fit their little pet theories about the universe, make a mockery of science by trying to justify ice-canopy theories, hydroplate theories, flood geology, and geocentricism.
So your goal of all this is a type of mind control? Where your way of thinking is the only way everyone should think? Because to do what you say above, it would take an established dictatorship that puts out information that only supports it's views (your views). And stifles all other views even up to killing those who would disagree. Even Hitler tried to do this. If what you believe were truly about free thought. You would not care what I think, or anyone else. The term free thinker is just a cover up for the mind control you want to havem over everyone. Because free thinking is a part of freedom. I see no freedom in thinking that anyone who does not go along with your ideas, should be ridiculed, or even killed. Maybe that's the real reason you allow people to say: We should kill Christians. Deep inside, it's what you want. So you let other people say it for you.

So is the mockery of science your justification for murder? Because every excuse I see by people like yourself, always boils down to science and evolution. And killing for evolution always connects to Hitler. And will be the reason I will always make that connection as long as sites like yours, and other condone killing.

Issac, Y.E.C. Headquarters 57 Comments [2/11/2009 4:01:00 PM]
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Old Yeller

I guess it is entertaining to have a site that is 90% geared towards the hate of Christians.

Yes, yes it is.

Which shows that your members are basically Atheists, and Satanists like yourself

Not quite. It just shows that most live in the west and are faced with Christian bigotry, idiocy and evil on a daily basis.

Next bit was just babble - tl;dr

Even Hitler tried to do this.

Godwin.

2/11/2009 4:05:05 PM

Average Guy

Even Hitler tried to do this.

I detect Godwin.

2/11/2009 4:06:15 PM

szaleniec

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/hitlercard1.jpg

Hitler didn't kill for evolution. Nobody to my knowledge has ever killed for evolution any more than they've killed for gravity or the atomic theory of matter.

2/11/2009 4:10:11 PM

QT

1: Your persecution complex is showing. And as far as I know, most people on here don't hate Christians, they hate fundies.

And while I've heard plenty of calls for people to "die in a fire", I've never heard anyone advocate murder.

2: Atheists and Satanists? Well, maybe if you're talking about LaVeyan Satanism, but I doubt you know enough about anything outside your narrow religious beliefs to know what I'm talking about.

3: First amendment, idiot. Again, I've never advocated murdering someone just because of what they believe. That's what the crazy fundamentalists do. Also, the admin would in no way be responsible for the behavior of someone that visits his site. That would be like arresting someone because a serial killer once stepped into their home.

4: There is such a thing as being so open minded your brain falls out. Just because I'm a freethinker doesn't mean I can't look at your ideas, discover that they contradict reality, and declare them bullshit.

And where do you keep getting this "murder" thing from?

2/11/2009 4:20:57 PM

Tolpuddle Martyr

Hmm, heres a few things Hitler actually said, from Wikiquote

* The German Church and the People are practically the same body. Therefore there could be no issue between Church and State. The Church, as such, has nothing to do with political affairs. On the other hand, the State has nothing to do with the faith or inner organization of the Church. The election of November 12th would be an expression of church constituency, but not as a Church. ** answering C. F. Macfarland's The New Church and the New Germany

* The church is certainly necessary for the people. It is a strong and conservative element.

* The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgement of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism [Nazism] is hostile to religion is a lie.

* Today Christians … stand at the head of [this country] … I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit … We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press—in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past … [few] years.

* I say: my feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Saviour as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to the fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as sufferer but as fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and of adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before - the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice. And as a man I have the duty to see to it that human society does not suffer the same catastrophic collapse as did the civilization of the ancient world some two thousand years ago - a civilization which was driven to its ruin through this same Jewish people.

* Just as the Jew could once incite the mob of Jerusalem against Christ, so today he must succeed in inciting folk who have been duped into madness to attack those who, God's truth! seek to deal with this people in utter honesty and sincerity.

* In the Bible we find the text, 'That which is neither hot nor cold will I spew out of my mouth.' This utterance of the great Nazarene has kept its profound validity until the present day.

* A few days ago I was in Eisenach and stood on top of the Wartburg, where a great German [Martin Luther] once translated the Bible.

* We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls. … We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity … in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people.

* Let us pray in this hour that nothing can divide us, and that God will help us against the Devil! Almighty Lord, bless our fight!

* The National Government will regard it as its first and foremost duty to revive in the nation the spirit of unity and cooperation. It will preserve and defend those basic principles on which our nation has been built. It regards Christianity as the foundation of our national morality, and the family as the basis of national life.

And it goes on and on, nothing about evolution - a whole lot of stuff about God. But just to wrap up I present this gem.

* And now Staatspräsident Bolz says that Christianity and the Catholic faith are threatened by us. And to that charge I can answer: In the first place it is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head of Germany. I do not merely talk of Christianity, no, I also profess that I will never ally myself with the parties which destroy Christianity. If many wish today to take threatened Christianity under their protection, where, I would ask, was Christianity for them in these fourteen years when they went arm in arm with atheism? No, never and at no time was greater internal damage done to Christianity than in these 14 years when a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those who denied God in one and the same Government.

Seems Adolph didn't give a toss about evolution and hated atheists with a passion, sorry. You lose.

2/11/2009 4:24:08 PM

Jezebel's Evil Sister

What a maroon! When we say something like "die in a fire," we are merely voicing our contempt for your ignorance, hatred and bigotry, not literally plotting to douse you with gasoline and strike matches on your skull.

But, of course, it's all literal to you because you are so stupid you think everything, even a moldy old book of myths, is to be taken literally.

Now, be a good little fundy and go "die in a fire" by which I, of course, mean, wise up or shut up.

2/11/2009 4:24:55 PM

Paschal Wagner

"So your goal of all this is a type of mind control?"

"Of course not. Don't be silly."

"I will not be silly."

"Offering a different opinion to insane ravings is not mind control."

"Offering a different opinion to insane ravings is not mind control."

"Good. Now stand on one leg and squawk like a chicken."

2/11/2009 4:29:24 PM

Lucretius

It is not 'mind control' to point out nonsensical, non scientific and even non Biblical arguments or beliefs, when we see them.
It is not a dictatorship to point out when people are being silly,stupid,(wilfully)ignorant or downright hateful.
If you insist on believing nonsense despite being repeatedly shown how stupid that is,then you should expect ridicule ,as would I if I said something as stupid as you regularly do.
It doesn't feel nice I will admit, but it is one way you can learn.

2/11/2009 4:32:03 PM

misterchipotle

why do people always group atheists and satanists together? they might as well put muslims and pagans in the same category, it would make just as much sense.

2/11/2009 4:36:41 PM

Lucilius

So arguing against the establishment of a mind-controlling fundie dictatorship is equivalent to establishing a mind-controlling atheist dictatorship? You people always have taken great care to look at the world from an inverted perspective.

You wish, you really do wish, that we wanted to kill you. Then you'd have something genuine to wail about, rather than hypocritically claiming persecution while living privileged and secure lives.

2/11/2009 4:37:39 PM

aaa

You need a sense of humour, you silly cock. Point and laugh, people.

2/11/2009 4:39:37 PM

Lucilius

@misterchipotle:

'Cause when you're dumb as Issac&Co., you can't tell an apple from an orange. To someone who's vaguely heard of dogs but never seen one, and has never heard of cats, the first sight of a cat might be identified as a dog.

2/11/2009 4:40:16 PM



WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!1!!eleven!!!one!11!!!

If you truly believe in freedom, you would censor every word, ban every person on this board that I don't like. To do otherwise makes you a satanic Nazi who would implement a Final Solution on Christians. (in the name of evolution)

I'm telling Sky Daddy and he's gonna kick your liberal, atheist, homosexual, Darwinist, ass straight to hell!



2/11/2009 4:42:56 PM

Mister Spak

"Even Hitler tried to do this."

Here's something else Hitler did.

"I believe that I am acting in accordance
with the will of the Almighty Creator:
by defending myself against the Jew,
I am fighting for the work of the Lord"
--Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

Hitler's Table Talk, July 25, l942:

'From where do we get the right to believe, that from the
very beginning Man was not what he is today? Looking at
Nature tells us, that in the realm of plants and animals
changes and developments happen. But nowhere inside a
kind shows such a development as the breadth of the jump,
as Man must supposedly have made, if he has
developed from an ape-like state to what he is today.'

2/11/2009 4:45:29 PM

Doctor Whom

So your goal of all this is a type of mind control? Where your way of thinking is the only way everyone should think? Because to do what you say above, it would take an established dictatorship that puts out information that only supports it's views (your views). And stifles all other views even up to killing those who would disagree. Even Hitler tried to do this.

I now have to buy mirror polish by the case, and yet someone still manages to use it up in no time. What gives?

2/11/2009 4:45:57 PM

Newton's Bitch

The one thing that really sticks out on reading that YEC page is that the poster clearly has a death wish for Hovind. I mean I don't like the guy but the original poster seems to spend a significant part of his time contemplating his death.

2/11/2009 4:55:39 PM

draco_nite

lolstrawman

2/11/2009 4:56:35 PM

Berny

Issac has a nasty tendency of equating any disagreement of his narrow-minded creationist beliefs with Hitler and Nazism. He plays the Godwin card constantly and if always wrong.
He doesn't understand the differences between Darwinism/evolution and Social Darwinism. To him they are one and the same. his understanding of modern science is equally abysmal.
Issac, if you are reading this, please do us all a favor and start reading books other than the Bible and Christian apologetic garbage. Educate yourself!

2/11/2009 4:58:36 PM

Syndrome of a Downs

This guy is not to swift when it comes to reading. It says "No one would care what fundies say if..."
That IF is very important. IF you want to believe that there used to be a big giant ice canopy over the earth that is your business. When you start trying to get others to believe that same thing, then those people should at least be made aware that what you believe may well be fantasy.
In the end if there is evidence that upholds what you believe in, then the mocking gets silenced pretty quickly.

2/11/2009 5:03:24 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

Please persecute me...godwin...godwin..whine...please persecute me...godwin...godwin...whine...

2/11/2009 5:06:34 PM

Canadiest

From the site that brings you lies and more lies founded by a huge liar who has more in common with Hitler than those he slanders

2/11/2009 5:10:20 PM

Mookie Blaylock

Unreadable gibberish.

2/11/2009 5:13:00 PM

Agnostic Antagonist

Given the amount of fundies that pray for the end of the world, I find this giggle-inducing.

2/11/2009 5:13:33 PM

Table Rock

There's enough strawmen here to wipe out all the hay in Kansas.

2/11/2009 5:19:45 PM

????

Translation: I secretly think that you're as dishonest as I am.

2/11/2009 5:21:54 PM

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