I am not really sure about the "age of accountability". I know many who received Christ into their hearts as young as 3/4 years old. God would also foreknow who would come to faith in him had they lived out their lives. I also agree with earlier post about the great flood and the sodom children not being spared and also God telling the Jews to put to death every living thing with regard to their enemies in battle and that included children. I do not think we remotely understand the incredible holiness and wrath of God! Thank God for the precious blood of Jesus in our lives!!!
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So, here's a child that barely says "mama" and "dada" has stated they accepted Jesus?
Also, the christian god not sparing innocent lives, he's a total dickweed.
Well your god did supposedly wipe out 99.9% of life on the planet with a flood, and I've read the Book of Revelations.
I think I understand the wrath of your god.
Good thing he's not real, right?
Your right, we don't understand the incredible holiness and wrath of God. But we but we do know that it's the sort of incredible holiness and wrath that we generally call blood-curdling, merciless, violence and rabid insanity. Unless of course you're a fundamentalist, then it's right up your street, and means whatever you want it to mean.
There's a kid who's 3/4 of a year old who accepted Christ?
Most kids that age aren't even toilet trained.
Respect. You know...kind of.
I take it you mean 3 to 4 years old?
In which case yeah I was christian at that time, but that is because both my parents were and everyone at my preshcool and school were.
Needless to say after I grew up and learnt how to think criticly...
yep no longer a christian.
Children that young don't "accept" Christ, they only mimic what they're parents say.
Oh, and that irony meter is ticking away as the very same people who are crying and whining about abortion are praising God for the wholesale slaughter of living children.
I've no doubt a kid that young could identify as a Christian, but there's no way (unless we're dealing with some kind of prodigy) that they'd actually understand the underlying philosophical and theological arguments. You can say you accept Jesus, but without a full understanding of the meaning and implications of this statement it's just words. (This applies to adults as much as it does to children, in point of fact.) The age of accountability as a magic line below which you automatically get taken upstairs is a crock of shit, but not for the reasons Rmf3175 suggests.
"I know many who received Christ into their hearts as young as 3/4 years old."
No you fucking don't, your dillusion made you think you have
I know many who received Christ into their hearts as young as 3/4 years old.
Since infants generally can't speak at that age, how do you know this?
God would also foreknow who would come to faith in him...
So if God already knows who's been faithful, then why the fuck do you care so much what others do with their lives?
"Age of accountability" is not in the Bible or even implied by it.
I do not think we remotely understand the incredible holiness and wrath of God!
You're right. We don't. In the Bible, He comes off as an egotistical sadist.
"...God would also foreknow who would come to faith in him ..."
Which means that he has foreknowledge that the majority of people past, present, and future will spend eternity in hell (according to fundie lore), yet he allows them to be born and does nothing to give evidence of himself that would lead more people to Salvation; i.e., fundie god is a monster.
"God telling the Jews to put to death every living thing with regard to their enemies in battle and that included children. I do not think we remotely understand the incredible holiness and wrath of God!"
then I guess you are pro abortion then? And you advocate killing others of another faith? Even their children? And you wonder why the Bible damn near made me atheist and why I thought your deity for a long time was one of the evil ones?
I know many who received Christ into their hearts as young as 3/4 years old.
Impossible, as God himself says they have to be ADULTS to accept Jesus. Non-adults and non-believers go to hell no matter what.
God would also foreknow who would come to faith in him had they lived out their lives.
If God knows, then there's no free will... hence, he's created people for the sole purpose of BURNING IN HELL FOR ETERNITY!
I do not think we remotely understand the incredible holiness and wrath of God!
Incredible LACK of Holiness...? That we understand. Wrath of God...? We understand that too.
How come you don't?
@Rmf3175
God would also foreknow who would come to faith in him had they lived out their lives.
Supposedly, he knows when everyone dies in the first place, so there's no "had they lived out their lives" at all. There's no "Oh, he would have accepted Christ at age 38, but he died when he was 7," because God should know that there's no way that the kid will ever live to age 38.
"I know many who received Christ into their hearts as young as 3/4 years old. "
Because they are often told to. I to accepted christianity at a young age. Why, because my mother was christian so I had no other choice.
"I also agree with earlier post about the great flood and the sodom children not being spared and also God telling the Jews to put to death every living thing with regard to their enemies in battle and that included children. "
See, this is the problem I have with your god. anyone who intentonally harms children does not deserve my respect, let alone my worship.
"I do not think we remotely understand the incredible holiness and wrath of God! "
No, you don't understand. I understand perfectly that your god is a sadistic asshole.
The poster is wrestling with two of the toughest concepts in Christianity. The fact is that there is nothing in the bible which suggests an "age of accountability." The concept was invented by the Anabaptists, who insisted that infant baptisms were invalid because no infants are baptized in the bible. This assertion left the question open about what happened to children who died in infancy, before they had a chance to make a determined choice to follow Christ. The age of accountability was invented to preserve the idea that god is just and compassionate.
This, of course, leads to the second tough concept: why does god who is supposedly just and compassionate kill and approve the killing of children in the bible? The age of accountability idea does make this bitter pill easier to swallow. After all, if these murdered children went straight to Heaven, it is easier to accept their deaths. Again though, this runs afoul of the fact that the age of accountability is not a biblical notion.
Whereas, if you simply forget about the bible entirely, both of these concerns, and a host of others, vanish.
Confused?
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