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You just don't get it do you?
3/7/2009 9:06:08 AM
Get out of my state!
And take your Fascist Council with you!!!
3/7/2009 9:09:45 AM
Worried about the value of marriage? Ban divorce.
3/7/2009 9:11:38 AM
Ahh, the old "marriage is what we say it is" argument.
3/7/2009 9:13:45 AM
You suck at analogies.
3/7/2009 9:16:34 AM
No, what is "diluting the currency" is people getting married without actually knowing each other.
3/7/2009 9:22:32 AM
So the government is going to throw $Bns at marriage?
3/7/2009 9:24:09 AM
Whatsa matter Tommy? Afraid the wife will leave you for her girlfriend if gay unions are given the same legal protections as heterosexual unions?
Seriously though. If one really looks at history one will find that marriages have always split up with amazing frequency. Oh sure, some cultures at some times show lower numbers for divorce but, that has more to do with stigma than the actual health of marriages.
Leaving aside the legal term "divorce" about half of all marriages have always failed. In other times and places those failed marriages may result in affairs, separate bedrooms, or murder. The only reason divorce is more common today, in the U.S., is that people who get divorced are no longer treated like lepers. And the acceptance of gay relationships has never shown the slightest affect on traditional marriages.
3/7/2009 9:24:27 AM
Prove it. Show me one person who divorced because I could possibly get married to the man I love.
3/7/2009 9:34:22 AM
Half of all people who get married are gay?
3/7/2009 9:42:47 AM
"dilutes the currency"? WTF are you talking about? Marraige is not a commodity although some fundies seem to think of it as such. You sir are a complete asshat.
3/7/2009 9:45:33 AM
I've seen a lot of retarded arguments against same sex marriage, but that one takes the cake.
3/7/2009 9:51:23 AM
a mind far far away
From the numbers, it seems that a traditional xtian understanding of marriage is the real problem of divorce. Judge yourselves before you go fucking with other people.
3/7/2009 9:59:10 AM
"Marriage" is not a continuous set of equal parts that can in any way be seen as analogous to a currency. Each marriage is a discrete instance, separate from every other. The fact that there are a huge number of straight people who marry while drunk out of their skulls in Vegas doesn't dilute the love in other couples one bit. And gay couples formalizing their relationships doesn't affect the relationships of other people. How the fuck can that be so hard to understand?
3/7/2009 10:23:36 AM
I don't think even Tom believes what he's saying. But you never know.
3/7/2009 10:24:21 AM
Sorry Tom, but marriage and economics are two completely different things. Poor economy hurts the country at large. Your divorce or someone's same-sex marriage is no way is affecting me at all.
3/7/2009 10:33:57 AM
Sorry asshole, hetero marriage was really a load of shit long before the gays came along wanting the same thing.
3/7/2009 10:34:04 AM
When I was in school, my parents were kind of a rarity for not being divorced or living separated. I can personally assure you that the falling apart of those marriages had nothing to do with "teh gay."
3/7/2009 10:43:34 AM
Have I not read somewhere that the incidence of divorce in America is far higher amongst christians, and fundies in particular than amongst non-believers?
3/7/2009 10:43:59 AM
Once again, fundies show their love for thinking about the world exclusively in laughably simplistic, superficial metaphors, with predictable vagueness, inaccuracy and outright crazy-talk in the positions such an approach leads them to take.
Can you imagine, say, a physicist taking such an exclusively metaphorical approach in their work? I imagine they'd end up, for example, likening the attraction of opposite charges to sexual attraction, then wasting the rest of their lives trying to find a subatomic equivalent for divorce.
Metaphors and analogies can only be taken so far, and usually not very far at that;beyond that point, madness (or at least abject idiocy) lies. They're useful as a starting point for a subsequent direction of original thought; you can't substitute an assumption that the analogy is exact in every possible facet and trying to shoehorn the whole new thing you're analysing into it for actually figuring out how it really works.
3/7/2009 10:47:18 AM
The "value" of marriage!?? You assholes wouldn't know the value of marriage if it was ear fucking you. You have a 50%+ rate of divorce, you've got closeted gays with beards, you've got infidelity and men getting involved with prostitutes. I think you pretty much de-valued marriage a loooong time ago.
3/7/2009 10:48:21 AM
Marriage is a currency, now? Cool. What can I trade it for?
3/7/2009 10:59:41 AM
How does the status of one couple's marriage affect another couple's marriage? Is a straight couple going to wake up one morning and say, "You know, now that gays can have counterfeit marriages, I just don't love you anymore"?
3/7/2009 11:08:31 AM
Head, meet wall.
3/7/2009 12:14:34 PM
Marriage =/= Money. Same sex marriage has absolutely no effect on either you, or your marriage, unless you happen to be in a same sex marriage. There is no inherent flaw that makes them breakdown any more often, and there is nothing that makes them cheapen traditional marriage. Your only objection is that you don't like gays and you wish to deprive them of anything you can. It's cheap, it's petty, and it's immoral.
3/7/2009 12:16:42 PM
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