[THERE IS NO HIDDEN MOTIVE IN EVOLUTION THAT SEEKS TO ELIMINATE RELIGION.]
True.
The hidden motive is to eliminate the power and purpose of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and to replace it with just as much neo-pagan gnosticism.
At the end of the day you have just as much 'religion' except this time your Adam is a grotesque ape-woman beast with long eyelashes and human feet. Your goddess. Your mother. a vulgar ape madonna.
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Go read your fairy tale in the corner and leave reality to the grown ups.
Since you like the movie boards you might consider looking up some wonderful resurrection films, basically anything that ends with "of the Dead".
Nothing in science says you can not believe in any god you choose (whatever PZ Myers thinks). What it does say is you can't use that belief as proof or explanation, either for or against an hypothesis.
Sadly, to someone like OBW, who has been raised on "The bible says it, I believe it, that settles it!", this is little different to heresy.
Most people manage to be BOTH a Christian and trust in science. Religion is a personal matter, someone to talk to when no-one else is listening, someone on your side. But P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L. Okie? Science on the other hand is something that describes the world and how it functions. The bible used to describe the world as they knew it 4000 years ago, and then 2000 years ago. The quran describes the world as they knew it 1500 years ago. Now we know more about the world, and don't need the descriptions in the bible or quran anymore.
First he/she says that it's true that Evolution is not seeking to eliminate religion. Then he/she says that it's seeking to eliminate the basis of Christianity. Christianity is a religion. Which is it? True or not true?
Religion is based on faith, science is based on facts. Not the same at all. "Long eylashes and human feet." WTF!?!
It's been observed that species of birds in the Galapagos can develop beak mutations that allow them to take advantage of the most plentiful food for the current conditions within a few generations.
Now, you show me some proof that there was a Jesus of Galilee, that he was crucified, and, most importantly, that he "rose from the dead."
Oh, and your magic book is not proof.*
*Note: I will take the Bible as proof IF you produce a talking snake, otherwise I ain't buying it.
What in hell does the execution of Jesus Christ have to do with the origin of human beings? That wretched book of fairy tales, the Old Testament, which contains your creation myth is supposed to be far older than the so-called "historical" Jesus.
Oh yeah, and while we're at it, your momma...
"The hidden motive is to eliminate the power and purpose of the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ..."
The Theory of Evolution has nothing *whatsoever* to say about any fictional characters.
Ok, here it is one more time.
On one side we have science, on the other we have religion.
Science is based on what can be observed in nature. Religion is based on what cannot be observed in nature (aka faith).
The two are mutually exclusive. It's twits like you that insist on mixing them together.
or you could go back even further, recognizing that the wellspring of all life is within a set of sublime chemicals that share a single essential capacity for change and self-replication and standing in awe of such efficacy, variety and beauty stemming from what is, much like God, a single source.
(sort of @ Table Rock) most advanced thinkers admit religion and the spiritual as a powerful domain of allegory, human creativity, poetry and rich symbolism with the potential to inspire people to greatness. it's when it inhibits your willingness and ability to see clearly what's right in front of your eyes that it becomes dangerous.
Well he's right that evolution cancels out Christianity. If Genesis didn't happen, then there was no Fall, and hence no need for an Atonement. The Christians who believe in evolution AND Chritianity are being totally illogical.
(The fundies are, in this sense, logical, it's just that they're beginning from a flawed premise.)
There is only one thing I worship. It's relatively simple in design, but amazingly complex in function. I'll be the first to admit I don't understand the way it functions in its entirety, and I'll even admit that I don't want to know more about those things I don't fully understand. The mystery of it is part of its appeal to me. I'm quite content to know that it exists and I'll gladly get down on my knees at any time in deference to it.
Of course, I'm talking about the human vagina.
@Jamo: That's exactly what I was thinking.
Also, "Vulgar Ape Madonna" sounds like an excellent name for a band.
Oh good grief, not another Narvaros induced crap fest again. One would think that Narvaros would learn after running away for who knows how many times. I would not doubt if the regular fundies at IMDB were poes.
Siberia
“I swear, somebody should start a Church of Gravity. I'd like to see them bitch over that...”
A church of pot exists, not in the United States, but still. I suggest religious ceremonies involve dropping a bible for at least fifty feet in the air (NOT ABOVE SIDEWALKS OR PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS! ) to demonstrate the power of gravity.
"a vulgar ape madonna"
THE APES CLONED MADONNA!?! YOU DAM DIRTY APES!!!! (guess which movie I referenced)
“Your goddess. Your mother. a vulgar ape madonna.”
It’s time for horrible yo momma’ jokes!
YO MOMMA SO HAIRY SHE WAS MISTAKEN FOR KING KONG!
Yo Mama's so hairy, she has afros on her nipples!
Yo Mama's so hairy, you almost died of rug burn at birth. (brain damage is apparent though
)
Yo Mama's so hairy, she shaves with a weedwacker.
Yo Mama's so hairy, she got a trim and lost 10 pounds.
Yo Mama's so hairy, she spread her legs and said, "We're going to Bush Gardens."
Yo Mama's so hairy, they filmed "Gorillas in the Mist" in her shower.
Yo Mama's so hairy, Bigfoot took a picture of her.
Yo Mama's so hairy, when she goes to the circus the bearded lady protests against non-union workers.
http://www.coopsjokes.com/mama/hairy.htm
Geez, dude.
First of all, please stop touting strange conspiricies that aren't even there. Evolution is a scientific concept developed by human intelligence, not a theological one driven by a mythical demon king with scientists acting as his mindless puppets. There is no god in it, not even that "vulgar" ape woman you reference with such dramatics.
Is your confidence in the power behind Christianity so weak that you believe that a scientific theory is strong enough to destroy it? There's nothing stopping you and your fellows from believing in Genesis if you want to. No science books waging holy wars on your Bibles, except in your imagination.
Now knock it off already. You're becoming a serious pest. Start worrying when a crusade starts demanding your bibles from your homes to burn in a Satanic ritual and replace with science textbooks... which seems unlikely to me, but then again I'm not a paranoid armchair philosopher trying to twist logic in order to connect ancient mythology with rational reality.
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