(Discussing homosexuality)
[Originally Posted by trisection
Lastly, I don't think Christians are as unanimous on this issue as you claim.]
Then they aren't Christians since it isn't open for debate. If someone claims to be a Christian and says homosexuality is OK with God then that person should be put on ignore, banned or whatever else the mods decide should be done. They are only causing a disruption.
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"Then they aren't Christians since it isn't open for debate.....hat person should be put on ignore, banned or whatever else the mods decide should be done."
There is no debate amongst Christians because you ban them? While I guess there is nothing inside this room because I close my eyes.
So all of Christianity is based on thinking gay people are bad? You know, some people think God loves everyone and wants all his children to be happy. That is the kind of Christianity that I like. The one that promotes love, not hatred.
"Then they aren't Christians since it isn't open for debate."
Why am I suddenly conjuring up images of Scotsmen and porridge?
"If someone claims to be a Christian and says homosexuality is OK with God then that person should be put on ignore, banned or whatever else the mods decide should be done."
Dissent!
Quick! Lock the doors and shutter the windows!
"They are only causing a disruption."
...of my fragile reality.
So basically you guys just debate with how much you agree with each other? Oh, ok. Dumbasses.
Unless it's Christians vs Christians aka Catholics aka anyone who's not a Baptist aka....
Anyways, human rights should not be up for debate.
>They are only causing a disruption.
Seriously, what is this "differing opinion" shit you're throwing out here, either you hate gays, or you simply are not a part of the Hivemind, ie not a RTC.
"And so man created the gods in his own image, in the image of man he created them. Intolerant and savage he created them."
Ironically, I think the Rapture Ready crowd have engaged in a weird form of idolatry by creating a god that hates who they hate.
But, hey, if it weren't homosexuality, these guys would have found some other trait to heap condemnation on. Fundamentalism specializes in that.
Then why is RaptureReady even discussing homosexuality, if the issue is so unanimously decided? I mean, they can just say "gay is bad and there's a lot of fire and brimstone blah blah" and be done with it for all eternity?
Do they find the cognitive dissonance thrilling?
Ja, mein führer! Töten die abweichleren! Sig heil!
Hate to Godwin it, but that's what you dumbasses sound like.
"If someone claims to be a Christian and says homosexuality is OK with God then that person should be put on ignore, banned or whatever else the mods decide should be done. They are only causing a disruption."
Yes a disruption to the nice circle jerking you were all enjoying in saying how ebil dem homos are!
Just like the ones who claim to be Christians and then cut their hair and beards, or eat shellfish, or wear clothes made of different materials, or work on a Saturday.
Ban their sorry asses right now!
Sure,
either you believe in our version of faith or you don´t belong to the faith.
The nice attitude that brought us (among others) the albigensian crusades, the thirty years war, persecution of gnostics and other early christian faiths by pauline christians (often just because they didn´t believe in virgin conception of Jesus or the trinity) as well as the burning of lots of books.
@WMDKitty: Left sock plus spider kneecap equals "the fuck." Learn!
Interestingly, Chef Brian makes more sense than the average fundie.
I kinda understand Slappi. The RR-people can only debate if they all read between the lines in the same way. Mitsy shows later in the thread how it's done:
"
EZE 16:49 Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50 They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
The Lord accuse the people of Sodom of being haughty, arrogant and proud and so the then did detestable things before me. I can only come to the conclusion from the story in Genesis concerning Lot and the city of Sodom that one of the detestable things they were accused of by God was homosexuality."
This is the whole tragedy of religion. The 'hateful lemming' syndrome.
Lets face it most humans are dumb as shit. There are smart humans, but they are the minority. Most are stupid as fuck and obedient.
So whatever you pour into these dumb fuckers, they parrot and do. So you pour into them that there is an invisible magic man who hates unbelievers/gays/believers of other faiths, then you get types like this guy here.
I often hear other nonbelievers say that humans are smart and valuable and that if only they'd be more educated... but I think that's crap. They, the unbelievers themselves are (usually) smart sure, but most of humanity is actually a bunch of retards barely smarter then apes and just as given to instincts. And this guy here is a specimen of such. He'll never have any great deep thoughts, he'll never contribute anything of value that last beyond his death. One of the many completely irrelevant humans in the overfilled, overstunk landfill that is humanity.
"If someone claims to be a Christian and says homosexuality is OK with God then that person should be put on ignore, banned or whatever else the mods decide should be done. They are only causing a disruption."
Oh, of course. Don't want anyone 'causing a disruption' in your precious right-wing, fundy freak neocon forum by having something like... dare I say it... AN INTELLIGENT, MEANINGFUL AND BALANCED DISCUSSION???!!!1111ONE111
Of course not. Because talking about adult consenting people who have human rights as you do would go against the wishes of Buzzardnuts, a.k.a. 'He Who Must Be Obeyed', right? Can't allow anyone you claim isn't Christian to say otherwise, eh? No dissenting thoughts allowed on Ruptured Retards, right?! BTW Slappi, when you've prised yourself from Buzzardnuts' arsehole, you can suck his cock next, to earn more RR FundiePoints.
Some thoughts:
Fascism for Christ
Groupthink
Hivemind
The Borg- "Resistance is Futile".
@ Mick: So true- oh, so how Painfully true.
So, is that the same for christians who think that women wearing pants is okay, or that divorce is okay, or ones who think women preachers are okay?
Ah, the Rupture Ready definition of "Freedom Of Speech"...
Do they realise that Freedom Of Speech, includes the right to criticise others, in hopefully rational debate...
If you start to censor anyone, then don't be surprised, if someone does the exactly same to you, but in the case of "Rupture Ready", they'll just claim it's persecution, by their Antichrist of the Moment, President Obama...
"I may disagree with what you are saying, but I will defend to the death, your right to say it..." - Voltaire
"God help you if you aren't in lockstep with us! Because we're REAL CHRISTIANS!"
Thus my dislike of religion is underscored. It's good and natural to have spiritual beliefs; the crime comes when people force others to follow their beliefs when they don't want to, which is exactly what this person is trying to do here.
Metaphorically, that's argumentative incest. You're not allowing new ideas to enter your world view, meaning it stays stagnant.
Metaphorically speaking, that means you kind of brain dead.
Pretty much sums up Fundy thought, which is: "Your opinion is a disruption to all I stand for. LALALALA! I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LALA!!!".
...Wonderful.
*sarcasm, in case it wasn't obvious enough*
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