GodsSoldier107 #fundie

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The fact is evolution has never been proven, even though scientists like to think that. There are many holes in evolution and logic supports the bible. The bible is not just a book of dos and donts,? its the word of God through our Lord Jesus Christ. It's only arrogant fools that cant see this.

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old comment by Zoo

Evolution is change over time. That means as little as a population adapting to an environment. We've seen that. We've also seen speciation, which is further along in the process. Evolution, simply, is fact.

I will grant evolutionary theory is not proven, but that's because we can only prove things are not true, not that things are true. We try to -disprove- things we think may be true. When we can't do that, we accept them to be true until someone comes up with a test to disprove them (this happens, for one example, if the technology needed hasn't been invented yet). Then we modify the explanation or look for a new one, depending on how much was disproved. In other words, thousands of scientists have spent the last 150 years trying to -disprove- evolutionary theory. Parts have been modified or thrown out, but overall the theory still stands. THAT'S why we accept it as true.

old comment by Horsefeathers

"The fact is evolution has never been proven, even though scientists like to think that."

Science doesn't "prove" anything. It simply says, "this is the most likely explanation given the current evidence". So far the evidence points to evolution being the correct explanation.

"There are many holes in evolution and logic supports the bible."

You have a hole in your head if you think that.

"The bible is not just a book of dos and donts,"

Of course not. It's also full of hate, bigotry, misinformation, outright lies, mythology, bad poetry, poor history and flawed thinking.

There's a few decent ideas in it, but the other stuff far outweighs it.

"its the word of God through our Lord Jesus Christ."

Really? My Bible doesn't have a Book of Jesus in it. Perhaps I have a misprint...

"It's only arrogant fools that cant see this."

And only deluded fools who can.

old comment by John_in_Oz

I've just had an insight into Fundie insults.
Firstly, note that they play turn-about with the rebukes they receive. Picture an ignorant primary school child whose teacher advises them that they've made a mistake, and failed to carry the tens. Envisage him responding "No, you failed to carry the tens."
To the child it appears they've leveled the playing field, by returning the exact same rebuke, utterly ignoring the fact there was a valid reason for the initial rebuke, and that the underlying reality addressed by the teacher does not support them. They don't realise they are publicly embarrassing themselves, though that is in fact what they're doing.
Some of their insults are just bizarre. You can tell that they mean to be insulting, but like receiving an ethnic slur that applies only to another race, it's WTF rather than hurtful. Examples of these are accusations of arrogance for accepting evolution. Since we used reason, evidence and logic to come to a considered judgment, the accusation is just silly. Another example is the reference to evolution as a fairy tale. I met a third instance during a debate on evolution, when the Fundie asserted "Evolutionist arguments resemble the Empire State Building, they have 130 different stories and there's a floor(flaw) in every one of them." Now I hadn't met that particular line before, but it's a good one. (Apart from the number being wrong.) It's obvious that it's ripped off from a critique of the Gish gallop.
Now here's the insight: What they're doing with these bizarre insults is repeating the ones that stung them most.
So, call them out on their arrogance, their fairy tales and their 102 different flawed stories- not only are you in the right, but you're hitting their self-disclosed weakest points.

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