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Thirdly, if economics is about providing needed goods and services, and if the goal of Biblical economics is to glorify God, then it is not unreasonable to conclude that ultimately, economics is critical and central to the dominion mandate. Whoever controls the means of production in a society also controls the wealth of that society, and therefore the power of a society. If God promises to bless the faithful as they labor unto Him, then wealth and power will flow to Christians over time. Therefore Christian economics must be self-consciously dedicated to extending the reign of Christ over every area of life. Eventually, the glory of God will fill the earth, and Christians will own everything.

Rev. Brian M. Abshire, Highlands Reformed Church: The Bible and Economics 39 Comments [2/10/2010 1:19:44 PM]
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D Laurier.

I think he just rationalized imperialism.

2/10/2010 1:29:59 PM

Doctor Whom

If God promises to bless the faithful as they labor unto Him, then wealth and power will flow to Christians over time.

And that, dear flock, is why you never see rich Jews, Hindus, or atheists.

2/10/2010 1:34:17 PM

Notch

Glory to god.

glory to god.

I am so sick of hearing about glory. I don't want a glorious god, I want a god that's functional regardless of how "glorious" the guy is.

2/10/2010 1:41:48 PM

Dark_Lord_Prime

So basically, Christians just want to rule the world.

2/10/2010 1:44:35 PM

storymoron

I don't see how this is very "fundie"...

2/10/2010 1:58:33 PM

Zeus Almighty

Biblical economics? WTF?

"If God promises to bless the faithful as they labor unto Him, then wealth and power will flow to Christians over time."

Too bad Jay-sus said sell all your shit and give it to the poor then, eh? Bummer for you.
Also, are you a member of "The Family?"

2/10/2010 2:03:52 PM

John

You've had almost 2,000 years. The Bible Belt is one of the poorest parts of the US. When is God going to start helping all those dumb 10th grade drop-out redneck Bible-thumpers?

2/10/2010 2:19:11 PM

aaa

The holy gospel of Friedman. Kid, you seriously don't want to get involved in that area. It's way out of your league.

2/10/2010 2:21:54 PM



So much for Jesus' giving-away-your wealth-to-help-the-poor version of Christianity, then, eh?

2/10/2010 2:42:28 PM

Danny Noonan

prosperity gospel is a particularly ugly form of Christianity.

2/10/2010 2:49:27 PM

El Zorro

How do you explain wealthy non-Christians then? Are they blessed by God as well?

2/10/2010 2:49:38 PM

Reckoner

But how many of those Christians could fit through the eye of a needle?

2/10/2010 2:50:59 PM

Table Rock

Yeah. Worked great for the Russia Empire, at least up until 1917. Then there was a slight disagreement.

2/10/2010 2:59:40 PM

Antichrist

. If God promises to bless the faithful as they labor unto Him, then wealth and power will flow to Christians over time.
Funny though how the Christian flock labour and the wealth flows to the Christian shepherds.

2/10/2010 3:11:00 PM

Doubting Thomas

The prosperity gospel may work for people like Pat Robertson, but only because they tell people what they want to hear before getting them to send in their money. It's no different from the OT rules where you had to give animals to the priest so he could offer them to God as a sacrifice. I'm sure the priests ate pretty well back then.

And Christians owning everything? Good luck, Christians are only about 1/3 the earth's population, and is waning in places like Europe and has started to in the U.S.

2/10/2010 3:39:53 PM

oop

The Rev. may have a point about Xian wealth here. Who else can afford to have such fancy buildings that they use only once a week?

2/10/2010 4:31:54 PM

Matante

My brain doesn't feel the same way as it did before reading this...

2/10/2010 4:37:09 PM

Shadow Boxer

So basically, if everyone on Earth converts to Christianity, then Christians will own everything...?

2/10/2010 4:38:10 PM

Philbert McAdamia

wealth and power will flow to Christians over time.

So, "soon", then?

2/10/2010 4:55:21 PM

Jeff Weskamp

Uh, what about Jesus's admonition that Christians "should not store up treasures on Earth,... but rather store up treasures in Heaven?"

What about Jesus's statement that it's easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of Heaven?

Or that statement about how a man cannot worship both God and Mammon (the Persian god of wealth)?

The whole "Prosperity Gospel" is simply a way of saying that Christians can indeed worship both God and Mammon!

2/10/2010 4:55:52 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

keep going..eventually you will be able to rationalize genocide and mass murder using the same technique.

Sorry about the godwin, but that is how Hitler started.

2/10/2010 4:59:42 PM

campbunny

This one is interesting, I don't remember seeing "Christians will own everything" on FSTDT before. What could possibly be more transparent than prosperity gospel?

2/10/2010 5:01:57 PM

Sandwich Board

"Whoever controls the means of production in a society also controls the wealth of that society,"

One of the axioms of Marxism, this.

2/10/2010 5:04:35 PM



If good Christians get wealth and power, why the fuck was Mother Theresa poor? Oh right, she was actually following the whole "live in self-imposed poverty and help the needy" bit Jesus was going on about.

And you can keep your god. My deities aren't presented as omniscient and perfect, but we don't want or need them to be. They deal with their bits of nature, we acknowledge them, sometimes pray to them, but mostly we use their legends as allegories that invite the listener to come to their own interpretations.

2/10/2010 5:15:46 PM

Jewsus

This sounds an AWFUL lot like Max Weber's take on the origins of capitalism.

By that, I mean accumulating wealth as "glorifying" god and success as a sign of providence. You know, all that fun shit.

2/10/2010 5:23:05 PM

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