Quote# 70282

Sex changes shouldn't be permitted by a society, and it's the sign that our current society is sick beyond belief. Any surgeon who engages in this should immediately lose his license and serve time, and society should NEVER consider a person to belong to any other gender than the one nature gave her.

If nature has made you a man or a woman, you will stay one. If you transgress this, you've just commited an aberration, and you've become an aberration yourself. You should be treated as such.

Mesian, Love-shy 55 Comments [2/9/2010 3:47:46 PM]
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Efrain

What if you're born with both? >.>

2/9/2010 3:49:00 PM

Sandwich Board

That's just the problem: if nature makes you a man with a feminine anatomy, or a woman with a masculine anatomy then you're already an aberration (and you can feel like it, too); the surgery is to fix that mistake (and don't go saying that nature doesn't make mistakes).

2/9/2010 3:52:28 PM

Ajax

"society should NEVER consider a person to belong to any other gender than the one nature gave her."

If they're still the same gender as before then how do you prosecute them for "sex change"?

2/9/2010 4:00:33 PM

Sisyphus

On behalf of my cousin Emily: go fuck yourself with a rusty pipe, then give yourself a lemon juice enema. Lather, rinse repeat.

2/9/2010 4:06:16 PM

Doctor Whom

Then surgery is just as much against "nature." If "nature" has given you an illness, you will keep it. In short, stop cherry-picking those parts of "unnatural" society that you like.

2/9/2010 4:07:19 PM

GigaGuess

And what about people with a cleft palate? Nature made you that way, so to fix it would obviously be an aberration...

2/9/2010 4:08:04 PM

Zeus Almighty

Sounds like somebody had too much tequila and woke up in bed the next morning to a SURPRISE!

2/9/2010 4:13:53 PM

Jedi Knight

One name for you: Caster Semenya! Look it up!

2/9/2010 4:16:01 PM

Mudak

I have a friend -- a biological male -- who was born a hermaphrodite. At birth, his parents said to keep the vagina and to remove the penis. As he got older, he had the surgery to give him the right parts.

If you see a problem with this, it should be in the decision his parents made, but even there, I'm not convinced they did anything inherently wrong.

2/9/2010 4:17:31 PM

bla

frogs and many other species can change their sex during their lifetime...

2/9/2010 4:30:52 PM



Fact: several non-western cultures hold the concept of there being more than one gender. Those same cultures have been around for thousands of years; most of them aren't as technologocially or industrially advanced as we are, but the fact remains that they're still thriving as a society.

2/9/2010 4:33:26 PM

Thrutch

Errrr - sometimes your accident prone little deity allows people to appear as one sex when they are the other.

2/9/2010 4:34:47 PM

Old Viking

Fundy compassion and understanding.

2/9/2010 5:07:04 PM

clockworkgirl21

What about the fact that research shows M-F transsexuals have a female brain, both physically and chemically, and visa versa?

2/9/2010 5:07:19 PM

ZugTheMegasaurus

It's none of your fucking business what I choose to do with my body. And this time, you can't use the "innocent child" argument. If I want different genitals, then damn it, I'm going to go get them.

2/9/2010 5:19:33 PM

WMDKitty

Yeah, because the brain has nothing whatsoever to do with a person's gender...

/snark

2/9/2010 6:02:49 PM

Sasha

What business is it of yours?

2/9/2010 7:06:24 PM

Reverend Jeremiah

Mesian, you shouldnt be ragging on "aberrations" seeing as you have a dick for a head.

2/9/2010 8:43:35 PM

louislois

The Christian love is strong in this one.

2/9/2010 8:44:23 PM

Orion

"Corrective eyewear shouldn't be permitted by a society, and it's the sign that our current society is sick beyond belief. Any optometrist who engages in this should immediately lose his license and serve time, and society should NEVER consider a person to need any other eyes than the ones nature gave her.

If nature has made you near-sighted or far-sighted, you will stay that way. If you transgress this, you've just commited an aberration, and you've become an aberration yourself, a four-eyes. You should be treated as such."


fixy fixy

2/9/2010 8:50:47 PM

Saika

Not being a transsexual and not knowing any I can't speak from experience and so can't be certain but it is my belief that if people would stop trying to solidify gender roles and push men and women into two very distinct categories (and instead treated gender with more fluidity) there would be far fewer people who feel the need to go through sex-change operations.

In short, Mesian’s an idiot.

2/9/2010 9:05:14 PM

SleepNeed

Gender is not cookie cutter. Not every biological male is born with a penis. As far as people wanting to change their sex, so what? It's their body, let them do what they want with it.

2/9/2010 9:07:57 PM

A'mael

Sexuality is not strictly binary anywhere in nature. Nor should it be - most particularly not to appease the hysterical imaginings of the willfully ignorant and socially stunted.

In short: fuck you.

2/9/2010 11:03:49 PM

Canadia

@Mudak

They didn't do anything inherently wrong?

How do you think mutilation of children without their consent to be anything BUT wrong?

Sure, a hermaphrodite might be outside the concept of social normalcy held by most people, but it's still mutilation, unless the hermaphrodite in question actually is old enough to consent to such things and goes along with it.

2/9/2010 11:28:51 PM

aaa

This is the lamest argument ever.

2/9/2010 11:38:27 PM

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