Randy Ross "But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." ~ 1Ti 2:12
I am shocked at how many so-called fundamentalists do not realize this even applies to YOUNG MEN, as in anyone over the age of 13. Yes, that means that women should not be teaching teen-guys.
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So not a Poe.
I had the unfortunate experience of teaching at a private "christian" school for several years where a number of fathers (the mothers didn't actually speak, they just sat and smiled) regularly protested that there should not be women teachers for grades above 7th or perhaps 8th. Many of them would tell their sons, especially those in high school, that they did not have to listen to or accept any discipline from a female teacher.
Don't like it? Teach your damn kids yourself. The rest of us have realized that women can be just as good at teaching as men and that women are much more likely to become teachers in the first place (what with there being a stigma against men who just like working with children and want to be teachers).
Also, I thought Jesus was the authority in the NT and Paul was just a disciple? As in, the same disciple who discouraged children from talking to Jesus, frowned on the sort of people that Jesus wanted to help, etc.
Leave it to a fundamentalist to latch onto anything that sexually dysfunctional, dickless woman-hater, Paul tells them about women.
Paul goes on to say "For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression."
But here's what Genesis says: "she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat." Where does it say Adam was not deceived or Eve pushed the fruit on him over his objections? Paul did the same thing fundies do today: he came up with his warped opinions first, then cherry-picked or misinterpreted clear scripture to make it sound like God agreed with him.
You're stupid! Some of the most cleverest and intelligent people I have met are women. Do not ignore people just because they happen to have a vagina.
I think that most men are very much able to control themselves, that they are just as able as most women to control this world.
Maybe if you'd listened to some women while growing up, you wouldn't be such a bigoted, ignorant, misogynistic prick.
Does that apply to mothers who try to help their 13+ year-old sons with homework? Does that qualify as "teaching?" Because let me tell you, if my mother hadn't spent all those hours helping my brother with his homework, he would have flunked out of school.
My Aunt Clare would like to have a word with you, Bro. The Police, district court, and the department of Social Welfare will back her up, too. Actually, now that I write that I recall one of her charges eventually joined the Police, and two others are in the Army now.
Three months' stay will do you good.
Who is she whom you really hate - the mother who bore you, the babysitter who protected you, the teacher who taught you the alphabet, the nurse who took your temperature...?
He's joined a group called "Christians Stand Up for Isreal". They're so passionate about Israel, they don't NEED to spell it right!
As for this quote, I assume Randy's wife & most of the women he knows are homeschooling their kids. Are they just supposed to stop teaching their sons at age 13?
Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life." Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."
Thomas 114
Dr Shrinker wrote:Randy is terrified of having his knowledge and intelligence shown up. That's why he aims his "ministry" at ignorant teenagers.
And that's the truth. He's an ignorant idiot with a need to dominate. I sometimes wonder what he does for a living, I think he must have some sort of religious vocation as I can't imagine anyone in the real world paying him money.
That said, on the old T4C website I once saw a picture of his trailer and shall we say, it's not as though he lives an expensive lifestyle.
Yes this is fantastic, given the current shortage of teachers, you are instantly going to... i believe the technical term is... fuck the education system over. Yeah perfect plan.
Seriously this is why you AREN'T in charge of anything.
Well, guys, I'm sorry, but I've spent enough time and money working on my certification that I figure you and your misogynous prophet there will just have to deal with it.
Well, guys, I'm sorry, but I've spent enough time and money working on my certification that I figure you and your misogynous prophet there will just have to deal with it.
The church I grew up though this way.
I always thought it was fucked up how a woman in her 50's with a job, education, children, and a home was placed below a prepubescent little boy.
To fundie men, women are children.
Did that include Mary, when she brought up Jesus and taught him, she didn't stop when he turned 13, in fact she pushed him towards his first miracle. And what about Phoebe?
Ah, Bro. Randy's back. Joy.
I've noticed how he always uses Paul's quotes, and rarely uses quotes attributed to Jesus that contradict Paul.
That's right, dagnab it! Now, gents, go fill those 30K a year teaching jobs, and let me up behind the wheel of that Caterpillar backhoe.
'Yes, that means that women should not be teaching teen-guys.'
Bro. Randy is one BIG-LEAGUE misogynist. He should be barred from teaching girls or women.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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