I don't actually recall any part of the US Constitution that says 'Congress shall pass no law pertaining to health care'. By your logic, Medicaid would be 'unconstitutional' as well.
4/1/2010 4:30:42 AM
They never say why it's 'unconstitutional', do they?
4/1/2010 4:31:12 AM
This guy makes Stormfront look sedated.
4/1/2010 5:10:41 AM
Percy Q. Shunn
I would just love it if you would actually take a few moments to read the Constitution.
I find it odd that christ-stains and republicans never really know what they're getting all frothy about. And when the two become one...
4/1/2010 6:07:02 AM
a well known dangerous villain
You, sir, with your blatant stupidity, are a disgrace to the name of my favourite supervillain.
4/1/2010 6:43:22 AM
Is this surprising at all? These people have proven themselves to be racist before.
4/1/2010 6:53:32 AM
Kinda hard to "pursue happiness" when you can't afford to even get a broken limb set or visit a doctor for a basic check up, isn't it?
4/1/2010 6:55:15 AM
The bill was passed by constitutionally-elected congressmembers and signed into law by a constitutionally-elected president. It doesn't get more constitutional than that. But go ahead, don't abide by it. I don't care if you die from simple illnesses. But I'm sure the next time you get the sniffles you'll be running to the doctor for some unconstitutional health care.
4/1/2010 7:44:52 AM
Oh boy, Doom's back. How ling do you think it is until he finds the site again and tries to argue with us?
4/1/2010 8:12:31 AM
@a well known dangerous villan
Don't let it get to you. It's just another Doombot.
4/1/2010 8:22:18 AM
Ah, conservatives... marching proudly backwards into the dark past.
4/1/2010 9:10:46 AM
The million people who will benefit for the law, who unfortunately for you are the majority in the nation, don't give a damn about your racism.
4/1/2010 9:36:07 AM
4/1/2010 9:42:11 AM
And where were you when Arabs were supposedly dancing in the streets after 9/11? Saying that that justified bombing their entire countries back to the Stone Age, no doubt? (Want some competition on your own level, do you?)
Supporting terrorism: it's okay if you're a Republican.
4/1/2010 10:45:22 AM
"At this moment, if al Qaeda erased Washington in a nuclear fireball, I would dance in the streets."
4/1/2010 12:46:05 PM
So when insurance companies are allowed to take away your coverage when you get sick again you'll react how?
4/1/2010 7:00:26 PM
At this moment, if al Qaeda erased Washington in a nuclear fireball, I would dance in the streets. That is the utter, undiluted hatred that I have for the traitors who voted to destroy my country.
Soo, you'd dance in the streets celebrating if a bunch of people who want to nuke your country nuked your country because you're a "true patriot"?
4/1/2010 8:47:36 PM
"if al Qaeda erased Washington in a nuclear fireball, I would dance in the streets"
So that makes you different from the terrorists exactly how?
4/2/2010 5:29:36 AM
@Phed: The Doomster is less competent.
4/2/2010 10:55:43 AM
Thanks for admitting that Republicans, if they reached a significant majority, would impeach a president who has not been accused of any crimes. That just confirms what I already suspected.
4/2/2010 3:32:22 PM
Fun experiment: Pick 5 random passages out of the Constitution, including bits of the bill of rights, and ask right-wingers if they are legal or illegal. Hilarity ensues.
4/3/2010 1:31:35 PM
"...this nightmarish law is blatantly, brazenly unconstitutional, ergo illegal..."
"Unconstitutional" means that the Constitution specifically forbids it, not that the Constitution doesn't happen to mention it at all.
4/3/2010 1:51:30 PM
You want to know what's ironic as hell about this?
The rudeness, name calling and unwarranted attacks are going to cease, or the members purveying them will be banned, even if they're long time members. Dishonest debate tactics are going out the window. If a member is unable to post facts to support their position, that will not be justification for them to attempt to present their opinions as fact. Nor will it be license to attack others, even liberals.
To which "DoctorDoom" said:
It's overdue. Kudos!
4/4/2010 7:18:55 AM
Well, I am for healthcare reform and there's a very good argument for parts of the bill to be unconstitutional. Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution lays out a specific list of things the federal government can regulate - the provision of healthcare services is not among that list.
People in favor of healthcare will argue that it falls under "interstate commerce" ("To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;") provision. That might work, but the courts have taken a more skeptical eye to "interstate commerce" because it's been used to justify the expansion of government powers to all sorts of areas probably not intended by the framers of the constitution. For example, there was a bill called the Violence against Women Act to provide federal penalties for domestic violence, and the Supreme Court ruled it was unconstitutional because nothing in the constitution, not even the interstate commerce clause, gave Congress the authority to make such a law. They probably have the authority to regulate the healthcare industry, but it's questionable whether Congress has the authority to mandate the provision of services at hospitals, or mandate that people maintain insurance for themselves.
It's also highly debatable that Congress has the authority to tax the failure to buy insurance. They have the authority to levy an income tax and impose duties on imported goods, but (arguably) not a general taxing power.
There are going to be some very interesting cases in the courts in the next few years.
That said, DoctorDoom is a racist ass-scraping.
4/4/2010 10:58:53 AM
Oh, dance in the streets anyway, 'cos we know Washington's gonna blow up any moment. It's even more joyful when you get hit by a bus actually.
4/4/2010 4:29:20 PM