[Re. the passage of the healthcare bill. Emphasis mine.]
Nothing in the US Constitution allows this communist travesty. The CommieRATs, from the Magic Niggro on down, have sliced the Constitution and used it to wipe their asses. At this moment, if al Qaeda erased Washington in a nuclear fireball, I would dance in the streets. That is the utter, undiluted hatred that I have for the traitors who voted to destroy my country.
Because this nightmarish law is blatantly, brazenly unconstitutional, ergo illegal, the states and the people are under no mandate to abide by it. Let the courts be overwhelmed with the suits against it. And let the scum who voted for it never again be able to sleep peacefully for fear of reaping the harvest of their treason.
Lastly, let there be such a plurality of Republicans in Congress that impeachment of the illegal, Kenyan-born usurper will succeed.
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I would just love it if you would actually take a few moments to read the Constitution.
I find it odd that christ-stains and republicans never really know what they're getting all frothy about. And when the two become one...
The bill was passed by constitutionally-elected congressmembers and signed into law by a constitutionally-elected president. It doesn't get more constitutional than that. But go ahead, don't abide by it. I don't care if you die from simple illnesses. But I'm sure the next time you get the sniffles you'll be running to the doctor for some unconstitutional health care.
And where were you when Arabs were supposedly dancing in the streets after 9/11? Saying that that justified bombing their entire countries back to the Stone Age, no doubt? (Want some competition on your own level, do you?)
Supporting terrorism: it's okay if you're a Republican.
At this moment, if al Qaeda erased Washington in a nuclear fireball, I would dance in the streets. That is the utter, undiluted hatred that I have for the traitors who voted to destroy my country.
Soo, you'd dance in the streets celebrating if a bunch of people who want to nuke your country nuked your country because you're a "true patriot"?
Riiiight!
"if al Qaeda erased Washington in a nuclear fireball, I would dance in the streets"
So that makes you different from the terrorists exactly how?
"...this nightmarish law is blatantly, brazenly unconstitutional, ergo illegal... "
"Unconstitutional" means that the Constitution specifically forbids it, not that the Constitution doesn't happen to mention it at all.
You want to know what's ironic as hell about this?
Check this out.
The rudeness, name calling and unwarranted attacks are going to cease, or the members purveying them will be banned, even if they're long time members. Dishonest debate tactics are going out the window. If a member is unable to post facts to support their position, that will not be justification for them to attempt to present their opinions as fact. Nor will it be license to attack others, even liberals.
To which "DoctorDoom" said:
It's overdue. Kudos!
@#1141543
Well, I am for healthcare reform and there's a very good argument for parts of the bill to be unconstitutional. Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution lays out a specific list of things the federal government can regulate - the provision of healthcare services is not among that list.
People in favor of healthcare will argue that it falls under "interstate commerce" ("To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;") provision. That might work, but the courts have taken a more skeptical eye to "interstate commerce" because it's been used to justify the expansion of government powers to all sorts of areas probably not intended by the framers of the constitution. For example, there was a bill called the Violence against Women Act to provide federal penalties for domestic violence, and the Supreme Court ruled it was unconstitutional because nothing in the constitution, not even the interstate commerce clause, gave Congress the authority to make such a law. They probably have the authority to regulate the healthcare industry, but it's questionable whether Congress has the authority to mandate the provision of services at hospitals, or mandate that people maintain insurance for themselves.
It's also highly debatable that Congress has the authority to tax the failure to buy insurance. They have the authority to levy an income tax and impose duties on imported goods, but (arguably) not a general taxing power.
There are going to be some very interesting cases in the courts in the next few years.
That said, DoctorDoom is a racist ass-scraping.
If Al Queda somehow got their hands on a nuclear warhead and used it on Washington D.C., you wouldn't be dancing in the streets because those streets would be placed under martial law. The entirety of the United States central government would collapse and by default the NORAD command center in Cheyenne Mountain would become the new capital. That means a military dictatorship until the government could be reestablished, that means anarchy, and that means chaos, panic and disorder.
@Ratio:
"Well, I am for healthcare reform and there's a very good argument for parts of the bill to be unconstitutional. Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution lays out a specific list of things the federal government can regulate - the provision of healthcare services is not among that list."
You're expecting the Constitution to specifically say "healthcare services"? Lol. It didn't exist back then. It's the same reason the Constitution doesn't mention cars, televisions or commercial airline trips. However, Article 1 Section 8 does state something that covers a public healthcare insurance plan:
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"
Commonly known as the "General Welfare Clause". This has already been settled by the Supreme Court a while ago in the United States v. Butler case. This indeed does allow for the federal government to create social/public programs.
Aside from that the Preamble covers for a right to a public healthcare system. You can't pursue happiness or have the right to life if you don't have health coverage. You can't live without medical care and most people can't have medical care without insurance. Patch-up jobs in the ER don't really count as they don't cure people, especially chronic illness, and they just pass the costs onto all other taxpayers. The Constitution doesn't say health insurance HAS to be private either. Otherwise Medicare, Medicaid and the VA health system would be unconstitutional.
Ewww ... Doctor Doom is not racist and he's anything but stupid you name stealing worm! And your stupidity level is utterly astounding. The only reason Victor Von Doom hasn't created a dimensional teleporter to come to our universe specifically to throw you in hell with Mephisto is because he's busy with Richards. But he's got your number.
All Hail the true Doom!!!
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