The Penquin/OnceWasLost #fundie

The Penquin/OnceWasLost #fundie rr-bb.com

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I don't get it. Why do many many on this board diss Earth Day? I helped volunteers plant nearly six thousand oak trees last Saturday at the Forest Preserve by my house.

But does planting trees help bring people to Christ? It's like going to third-world countries to feed the hungry. It doesn't do a starving man any good to keep him alive for another day if he's doomed to hell anyway. It doesn't do anyone any good to plant trees for people if they haven't heard about Jesus. The future of this earth is destruction....You don't "Bring people to Christ" with inanimate objects. He is knowable, but unless that tree becomes paper, and eventually a Bible, it will have no value in expressing how to know The Creator who made the tree.

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old comment by Giveitaday

I don't get it. Why do many many on this board diss Earth Day?

Because fundamentalists arrogantly assume that anyone outside their narrow worldview is inherently incapable of doing good.

But does planting trees help bring people to Christ?

Does taking a shit help bring people to christ? Do you abstain from that as well?

It's like going to third-world countries to feed the hungry.

Of course feeding the hungry is an ungodly act, it's not as is Jesus ever selflessly fed a multitude of hungry people.

It doesn't do a starving man any good to keep him alive for another day if he's doomed to hell anyway.

Yes it does, it keeps him alive for another day, and that's one more day that he could convert. Moreover why do you assume a poor starving people in 3rd world nations are not already christians?

It doesn't do anyone any good to plant trees for people if they haven't heard about Jesus.

Insulting the actions of others on RR doesn't do anything to bring people to christ and yet you do it anyway.

You don't "Bring people to Christ" with inanimate objects.

And you don't bring people to christ with 1,001 things that you do, but that doesn't stop your from doing them, now does it?

He is knowable, but unless that tree becomes paper, and eventually a Bible, it will have no value in expressing how to know The Creator who made the tree.

If your "god" actually did create the world then would not the tree itself be a testament to your "god" by it's mere exitence?

You are using your religious beliefs to hide the fact that it's your political ideology that's opposed to Earth Day. The fact is that it's political ideology that drives drives most opinions found on RR, religious belief is tertiary at best.

old comment by Pule Thamex

Yes, it's very similar to The Penguin/OnceWasLost's use of electricity to produce the above post.The post actually helps to turn people who read it away from Christ (a fantasy figure really), and away from fundamental cultism in general (a very helpful outcome indeed). Does such a waste of power help bring people to Christ? Clearly, it does not. However, according to the fundamentalists own very limited philosophical outlook, it's an exemplary way to ensure people go to hell when they die instead of becoming airborne at the sound of a trumpet.

Not that there's any such place as hell, unless it is the barren wilderness inside a fundie's head. But, talking bollocks is part of their enjoyment, and mine too, so more power to them in that respect.

old comment by Horsefeathers

"But does planting trees help bring people to Christ?"

No. Does posting on your lunatic magnet forums "bring people to Christ?"

Guess you shouldn't be doing it then, huh?

"It's like going to third-world countries to feed the hungry. It doesn't do a starving man any good to keep him alive for another day if he's doomed to hell anyway."

Oh, well then. I suppose all the lazy bastards should just die off and free up some space for deserving people like you.

"It doesn't do anyone any good to plant trees for people if they haven't heard about Jesus."

I would be absolutely stunned if you could find me one fucking person on this planet that isn't part of some remote undiscovered tribe that hasn't heard of this Jesus guy.

"The future of this earth is destruction....You don't "Bring people to Christ" with inanimate objects."

No. You apparently do so by posting Rapture fantasies to a bunch of idiots on a forum populated by the delusional.

"He is knowable, but unless that tree becomes paper, and eventually a Bible, it will have no value in expressing how to know The Creator who made the tree."

You people baffle me. Seriously.

old comment by Doubting Thomas

I'm really surprised that jeansandjacketrequired (the author of the initial statement) hasn't been kickbanned yet for suggesting that there will be future generations. It's heresy on the RR board to suggest that the rapture isn't coming any day now. To suggest that there will even be future generations is liable to get one banned permanently from that board, not to mention being in favor of a "liberal pagan holiday that celebrates an earth god."

"It doesn't do a starving man any good to keep him alive for another day if he's doomed to hell anyway."

Yeah, nice Christian charity & love there. I bet if you asked this asshole, they'd say that Christians are the most generous & loving people in the world.

old comment by Saccharissa

"It's like going to third-world countries to feed the hungry. It doesn't do a starving man any good to keep him alive for another day if he's doomed to hell anyway"

From Matthew 25:

"31When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

"32And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

"33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
...

"41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

"42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

"43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

"44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

"45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me."

Jesus would not be impressed, OnceWasLost. You say that the Bible is important, but do you actually READ it?

old comment by dionysus

But does planting trees help bring people to Christ?

No, but if Jesus allegedly created the planet for you and lets you live on it, then it behooves you to take good care of the place. If I were a creator deity and saw that kind of attitude in the people living on my planet, I'd send them on a one-way trip to Venus.

It's like going to third-world countries to feed the hungry. It doesn't do a starving man any good to keep him alive for another day if he's doomed to hell anyway.

You heartless mother fucker! And I'll bet you have the nerve to call yourself morally superior to all non-Christians. Hey, why don't you take your own advice and stop eating? After all, eating doesn't bring people to Christ. Oh, and also, no sleeping either as that's eight hours of time when you're not bringing people to Christ.

It doesn't do anyone any good to plant trees for people if they haven't heard about Jesus.

Of course it does people some good; trees make oxygen which we kind of need in order to live. Some trees even grow food for us, which also keeps us alive. And again, if you're SO against 'wasting time' doing things that aren't about Jesus, you should stop eating and sleeping.

old comment by dionysus

The future of this earth is destruction....You don't "Bring people to Christ" with inanimate objects.

Wait, so the Bible isn't an inanimate object? Funny, I've never seen one walking around of its own volition.

He is knowable, but unless that tree becomes paper, and eventually a Bible, it will have no value in expressing how to know The Creator who made the tree.

And yet creationists will say things like "Look at the trees" and use that as evidence of a god existing. And if we follow your logic here, your kidneys are equally incapable of expressing how to know the creator, therefore they are useless (in fact, they're worse than useless as they make you pee which is yet another action that doesn't tell anyone about Jesus) so you won't mind handing them over to the nearest hospital. Because I can guarantee that there are people who find things useful even if those things don't shout "Jesus" 24/7.

old comment by Zeus Almighty

Gee, I never thought about it that way.
Taking your "argument" to its logical conclusion, showering doesn't win anyone to Jay-sus so I'll have to stop doing that.
Neither does driving to work, or work itself for that matter. Mowing my lawn wins no one to Jay-sus, so I'll quit and if my neighbors complain I'll just tell them they're a bunch of sinners.
Dressing takes time that could be better spent knocking on doors and spreading the word, so I'll have to be a smelly, nude, jobless, homeless witness for the Lard. I'm sure the cops will understand when I explain why I'm not wearing clothes.
If I come upon a burning house with people inside I won't help save them. If they're doomed to hell anyway it won't do any good to prevent them from dying of burns or smoke inhalation.

It appears you really didn't think this through, penguin brain.

old comment by AdvisorInChrist

My immediate advice to you is start a new cult. A cult that predicts non-Rapture non-events. So every time you predict that the Rapture won't take place on such and such a day, you will always be right. As it is, with your current cult, you are always wrong, and will always be wrong for the foreseeable future. This would be helpful in the avoidance of associating dorkishness with Christ.

Another thing that would be helpful, is the avoidance of idiotic contrariness. On the one hand you say, 'Go outside and see the wondrous hand of God in all His marvelous creations. This disproves evolution and proves intelligent design'. Then, on the other hand you say, 'The wonders of nature mean nothing unless they can be harvested and processed somehow with intent to tell of fundamental cultism and its unhealthy obsessions'.

All this is bad news for Christ. He would infinitely prefer that His name was bandied about by, at least, people of good intent and with less of a reliance on Mammon worship.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"It doesn't do a starving man any good to keep him alive for another day if he's doomed to hell anyway."

It doesn't do you & everyone on Ruptured Retards any good to keep living on this Earth for another day, if you're wanting to be (C)Raptured.

So go on. Drink the Kool-Aid.

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909 people at Jonestown can't be wrong after all. The Heaven's Gate-rs had the right idea too:

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Remember, RR: 'Suicide is a sin' is purely Catholic doctrine. And you Protestant fundies oppose Popery* in all it's evil forms, don't you?

Proof that you lot never read your Bibles:

Matthew 25:35 (KJV): 'For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36: 'Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.'

37: 'Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?'

38: 'When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?'

39: 'Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?'

40 (emphasis added): 'And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.'

41: 'Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:'

42: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:'

43: 'I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44: 'Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?'

45: 'Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.'

46: 'And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.'

I regularly donate to Oxfam. An organisation which initiates agricultural programmes for the Third World. Thus I contribute to the creation of land that feeds entire communities for more than one day.

In summation: You're fucked.

Methinks that gem-encrusted mansion in heaven that originally had your name on it, OnceWasLost, will look good with 'Anon-e-moose' on it instead. And no doubt Jesus will remodel the gold crown that was to be yours to fit my head. Where you're going, all you'll need to take are asbestos pyjamas. You'll certainly be needing them - in Hell!

>:D

*- So why are you Anti-Abortion, then? That's Catholic doctrine too.

@Horsefeathers

"Does posting on your lunatic magnet forums "bring people to Christ?"

And when Mr(Wo)Mannn brings down the B&hammer on anyone who deviates on iota from the rigid, one-dimensional dogma of Ruptured Retards when their posts contain differing opinions, they not only drive away people from RR, but from Christ as well.

Mr(Wo)Mannn's another who'll be needing his asbestos pyjamas, methinks.

old comment by Michael the Christian

You radical evangelicals have become so focused on evangelism that you have lost sight of everything else. Anything that does not help to "bring someone to Christ" is regarded as useless in your eyes. This is not what Jesus taught. Yes, Jesus' last commandment was to spread the word, yet he also gave many other commandments, such as "love your neighbor as yourself" (Mark 12:31). I think that giving a starving man food would certainly be loving him as you would love yourself. If I were starving, I would want someone to give me food, not preach at me. That's what I would want done to me, so that's what I should do to other people who are starving. God also said to "fill the earth and subdue it" (Genesis 1:28). I think planting a tree is a good way of helping to fulfill that command. Personally, I find the statement "It doesn't do a starving man any good to keep him alive for another day if he's doomed to hell anyway" extremely saddening to hear. I can't believe someone would refuse to take care of somebody's physical needs - even if they were dying - unless they converted.

old comment by Gnostis Veritas

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FuturePriest86

This is modern-day gnosticism, and it is heresy.

7/1/2010 7:26:41 PM

Hey... Ill have you know that I AM a Gnostic... and while the view of them is frowned down upon by most, including their very own people who in a way believe the same thing they do, NOT ALL GNOSTICS are about cheering for doomsday or wanting to die and everything with them and not giving a shit about the here and now. I CARE. I simply recognize my body as terminal with time and view my death as a release not a punishment and for me to be able to escape from this materialistic and somewhat treacherous world when I die to go back to the light and be ONE with the cosmos and everything. But this does not mean I support the doomsdaysayers or the negativity of RR and those who think like them... nor do I not care nothing for the world or other people and want to help. I am very much active in my community and helpful to others as much as I can be while I live my life on this planet and simply await my day to leave it and go back to the pure light. And I DO NOT advocate nor wish ill will on others or seek to harm anyone. So dont knock ALL Gnostics based on a few negative ones from the past.

old comment by Gnostis Veritas

#1174549
FuturePriest86

This is modern-day gnosticism, and it is heresy.

7/1/2010 7:26:41 PM

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"But does planting trees help bring people to Christ?"

No, but reusing Bibles is far more useful. It's not my fault if those who print Bibles use a grade of paper that's sooooo absorbent. My arsehole can speak from experience in this matter. >:D XP

"It's like going to third-world countries to feed the hungry. It doesn't do a starving man any good to keep him alive for another day if he's doomed to hell anyway."

Give a starving man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Give a starving man a fishing rod, and he'll eat for life. Give a starving man a Bible, and he'll use it to start a fire. On which he'll cook & eat the one who gave him that Bible. [/Uruguay Flight 571]

Quit your jobs, Ruptured Retards, and just sit there at home, whilst you starve. The Lord will provide, and all that jazz. Meanwhile, you get thrown out onto the street as your house is repo'd. I'm sure your 'God' will provide plenty of cardboard boxes for shelter. And there's food a-plenty out there. Start that dumpster-diving, Penquin & AlwaysIsLost.

old comment by Shax

It doesn't do a starving man any good to keep him alive for another day if he's doomed to hell anyway.

Let's borrow your logic for just a second. Don't worry, you can have it right back.

According to your dogma, keeping a non-Christian from starving for another day is one more day that that non-Christian can make a decision to give his/her life to Christ, yes? And even if s/he doesn't accept, than each day s/he's kept alive is one day that that person isn't in Hell.

From the tone of your statement, it would almost seem as if you were eager to consign non-Christians to Hell, provided you were reasonably certain that they would never have accepted Jesus anyway.

But surely that's not what you're getting at here, is it?

Is it?

The Penquin/OnceWasLost #fundie rr-bb.com

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