Quote# 73072
[I included the whole article because you need to read the thing in context. But if you get the chance, do read the comments. They are also FSTDT-worthy material.)
Let's just say, you know for a fact that eating children is wrong. A great number of people believe as you do and we all acknowledge it in unity. Then there is a website that says that eating babies is fine that you don't need to "buy into it" and believe that eating babies is wrong. There is a couple of blogs that talk all day how liberating and fantastic eating children are. Now whoever listens to them think they are crazy and very wrong but a few listen to the intellect behind the reasoning, they listen to the argument. Let's say the argument says it's natural for many animals eat their young in nature, and people are just a part of the natural process or something like that. Some people buy into it and start doing it.
You struggle everyday as to why people think like that, they all must be crazy, what do they know that you don't? This goes on and on but after a while you get curious. You then start to go around thinking why you don't get to eat babies as others do and how some people demand that you don't, like your parents. Then one day you get an opportunity to do it but everything in your soul KNOWS it is wrong. You shake at the thought of eating that very young child. It's agonizing to you for quite a while, you cuss at yourself for having such insane thoughts!
One day you see a little 5 year old at some playground and you convince yourself that you have to know what it's like. You seize the moment and kidnap the child. You keep that child tied up for days agonizing whether you should do it or not. You almost feel yourself slipping away into insanity to the point you can't take it. So you get the nerve somehow, and do it. Then afterwords you say to yourself that it was too quick that you need to try it again to see if the feelings you had during were genuine. So flash ahead a month and you have done it many times and you now frequent places that do it and go online to websites that also do it and you feel a sense of a warm community. You struggle with the nightmares until they pass and you feel OK. You embrace the fact that you are now a baby eater and you and your new friends are OK with it. The struggle get's a little easier to accept the notion that eating babies is fine for the natural process. You teach you own kids that it is perfectly natural to eat babies. You start your own website that is called "Eat babies!" and you showcase your work.
Is this what an atheist goes through when they start to not believe in God? The stories of struggles, that I have heard, turning away from God are similar to this scenario. Many authors talk about the struggle they go through from belief to non belief. The agonizing pain it causes themselves as well as their families. Could atheists talk themselves into anything? The methodical erosion of ones values and morals can be so damaging, to the point that it's acceptable that"Atheists eat babies."
An atheist may still be moral and say murder and rape are wrong: but when asked why, they will not have a final reason or authority to which they can appeal.
Dan,
Debunking Atheists 257 Comments [5/21/2010 9:52:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Mira
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#1359909
silly rabbit
oh good another fundie trying to dazzle people with his amazing stupidity.
12/22/2011 12:49:01 PM
#1360839
Zaydin
I'm an atheist, and I know rape and murder are wrong because it's socially unacceptable and I personally feel they are wrong. Not because some book written during the Iron Age/Middle Ages told me so.
12/26/2011 9:08:41 PM
#1367304
Indikins
I got a, uh, pedophile vibe from this guy. :/ Plus, that's some mighty disturbing detail he got into.
1/18/2012 4:55:23 PM
#1371841
rukidding????
First of all you sound like the leader of a cult more so than a christian ....The Christians I know are sweet loving people who treat everyone equally without prejudice. Religion can manifest in very good or very bad ways. Its this kind of extremist beliefs that cause wars, and hate which is in no way the "will of God." According to your bible isn't the judgment left to God, how dare you as such a "loyal Christian" think you are somehow worthy of your "god's" work. If there is a hell you will surely be judged harshly for your harsh words and judgment. Didn't "god" give people free will for a reason if so what gives you the right to meddle?.... (Sorry i had to reason as best I can on your terms assuming there is a god because your "logic" is that far fetched that i'm quite certain no sensible point will stop your idiocy.") ...religion is the home of the broken and brain-washed thats why its more prevalent in war-torn countries people need some glimmer of hope that the next life will be better than this one cause were too selfish and incapable of accepting how insignificant our existence really is. It was built on fear and preserved for control and now lead my the generations of brainwashing. Just because im not afraid to go to hell doesn't mean i wish to inflict pain or could ever be convinced otherwise i mean why do ants work together in there little ants nests helping each other... not because of any god ... they help one another cause they, like us humans, know they need each other and in turn they care for each other it may be based on a basic instinct of survival ... but thats how we humans have the basic knowledge not to kill or rape ... we feel emotions and can perceive others emotions and all posses the feeling of empathy for these emotions. that why we know not to hurt, steal, rape, or murder... its in our brain to chemically react to others feelings. This is science and PROVEN.... for "gods" sake give up alreadyy
2/4/2012 12:26:38 AM
#1371850
Robespierre
"An atheist may still be moral and say murder and rape are wrong: but when asked why, they will not have a final reason or authority to which they can appeal."
And neither do you. You just pretend to have one.
There's no such thing as a final reason. Reason alone can't prove anything except tautologies, unless you start from arbitrary axioms.
I didn't rationally conclude that eating children was wrong, my sense of right and wrong told me. Of course, I have no way to know if my sense of right and wrong is truthful - just as I have no way of knowing if any of my senses is truthful. I assume that wrong is wrong in the same way I assume that I can't walk through walls.
2/4/2012 2:58:38 AM
#1380076
@#1159826
There is a reason why cooked human meat is called "long pork." Take a guess what it is.
3/5/2012 6:14:17 AM
#1383293
What. The. Fuck.
Your hand must've smelled. A lot.
3/18/2012 2:34:05 AM
#1389775
Joel
god this man is disturbed.
4/4/2012 7:26:32 PM
#1390484
ading
What the heck did I just read?
4/7/2012 5:45:30 AM
#1392453
Frelus
This guy makes me physically sick.
Please, take your meds next time
4/14/2012 11:09:36 AM
#1392455
Filin De Blanc
I hate to impute malicious intent or mental illness based solely on someone having a morbid imagination, since God knows I have one, but this is really disturbing.
4/14/2012 11:11:24 AM
#1404701
Snarker
Ah children... the original baby back ribs.
5/18/2012 4:05:39 PM
#1409341
Ebon
You people frighten me.
6/3/2012 1:15:56 AM
#1410756
Blue the Thief
Why do people like this exist?
6/7/2012 3:33:44 AM
#1419116
Nota Mala
Even in the Bible, cannibalism of ANY NATURE is treated as a horrific taboo and offense to God. Also, truly rational atheists DO NOT EAT BABIES. OR CONTEMPLATE SUCH THINGS. Simply because baby-eating is IRRATIONAL and ILLOGICAL.
Atheists do not fuck logic. Fundies do. Repeatedly.
7/3/2012 8:21:01 AM
#1440256
Ebon
You need a psychological assessment.
8/28/2012 9:31:22 PM
#1441330
Micro
I just replaced the word "atheist" with "religious person", and everything made a lot more sense.
8/30/2012 9:56:52 PM
#1441331
Micro
Also.... Is the only thing keeping these guys from raping and murdering people... religion?
8/30/2012 9:59:09 PM
#1449848
Kenzisa
Yes, cuz everyone knows that Athiests eats babies... They also lace chocolate with a spell from Ethan Ryan that turns adults to act like teenagers in order for the demon Lucronis has his tributes of newborn babies to eat. (Tee hee, Buffy nerd moment)
But yeah, you cray cray.
9/21/2012 8:40:13 AM
#1451747
quinnton
Hmmm, I don't eat babies. And my transition from belief to non belief was painless, cuz people like you blow shit like this out your asses because you think it is true
9/26/2012 4:53:47 PM
#1457817
That's one fucked up fantasy you've got there Dan.
10/12/2012 2:54:22 PM
#1467810
...
Seeing as atheism is not believing in God, a better analogy would begin with "Let's say you've been taught all your life that not eating babies is wrong". But that would refute your point, so you have to use bad analogies like that one.
11/10/2012 10:56:59 PM
#1472693
Let's just say, you've been taught all your life that not eating children is wrong. A great number of people believe as you do and we all acknowledge it in unity. Then there is a website that says that eating babies can cause psychological damage and that not eating babies is fine. There are a couple of blogs that talk all day how liberating and fantastic not having the responsibility of eating children is. Now whoever listens to them think they are crazy and very wrong but a few listen to the intellect behind the reasoning, they listen to the argument. Some people buy into it and stop doing it.
(cont'd)
11/21/2012 7:20:31 PM
#1472694
You struggle everyday as to why people think like that, they all must be crazy, what do they know that you don't? This goes on and on but after a while you get curious. You then start to go around thinking why you have to eat babies while others don't and how some people demand that you do, like your parents. Then one day you get an opportunity to stop doing it but everything in your soul THINKS it is wrong. You shake at the thought of sparing that very young child. It's agonizing to you for quite a while, you cuss at yourself for having such insane thoughts!
(cont'd)
11/21/2012 7:22:46 PM
#1472696
One day you see a little 5 year old at some playground and you convince yourself that you have to know what it's like. You seize the moment and spare the child. Your mind ties you up for days agonizing whether you should do it or not. You almost feel yourself slipping away into insanity to the point you can't take it. So you get the nerve somehow, and don't do it. Then afterwards you say to yourself that it was too quick that you need to try it again to see if the feelings you had during were genuine. So flash ahead and you not have done it for a month and you now frequently visit places that don't do it and go online to websites that also don't it and you feel a sense of a warm community. You struggle with the fear of punishment until it passes and you feel OK. You embrace the fact that you are not a baby eater and you and your new friends are OK with it. The struggle get's a little easier to accept the notion that not eating babies is fine for the natural process. You take your children to schools that do not tell people to eat babies and they recieve a better education than you did. You start your own website that is called "Life After Baby Eating" and you showcase your work.
Fixed.
11/21/2012 7:26:22 PM
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