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People who have not served in the military, especially those that have not been in combat, have no clue what having an openly gay person coming on to you does to unit cohesion. It's bad enough if you have an effeminate acting male. But, "openly" usually means the ones that are not shy about coming on to total strangers.

And, this does not even address the issues of HIV and other STD's... Or other things that do not require intimate contact but merely sharing a foxhole...

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old comment by Anon-e-moose

"People who have not served in the military, especially those that have not been in combat, have no clue what having an openly gay person coming on to you does to unit cohesion. It's bad enough if you have an effeminate acting male. But, "openly" usually means the ones that are not shy about coming on to total strangers.

And, this does not even address the issues of HIV and other STD's... Or other things that do not require intimate contact but merely sharing a foxhole..."

My nephew is in the East Yorkshire Regiment, currently serving in Afghanistan. He, and everyone else knows there's a few gay squaddies in his regiment. He - and everyone else - doesn't care. One reason why he - and they - don't care, is that said gay soldiers don't 'come on' to them. And why should they? They're just like everyone else. Fellow squaddies. Who'll muck in like everyone else. Who'll be there to back up their straight squadmates - and save innocent civilian lives - when it gets messy out there. PROTIP: Do a little military history research. One Word: Spartans.

And this does not even address the issues of AK-47 fire and IEDs. Because you've clearly never been in those situations eh, SpiritualMadMan? (with the emphasis on Mad)

Until you have, you don't even have the right to criticise these brave soldiers, out there risking their lives for the likes of you 'Armchair Generals'. Unless you're willing to prove me wrong.

That US Armed Forces recruitment office is calling you. Go on, you know you want to...!

>:D

old comment by Felis >:3

@Fang: it seems the researchers weren't doing their job properly, judging by this guy.

SpiriutalMadMan's off in the clouds. Read this again:
"But, "openly" usually means the ones that are not shy about coming on to total strangers.

I mean, what? What the hell is he on about? Does he thing that next time they do a patrol the gay soldier might try to come onto the coffee shop owner in the market? That next time they capture an insurgent he's going to try and cop a feel of their arse?

Like I said, off in the clouds!

And I agree with Percy Q. Shunn (nice pun) -- those soldiers are your friends, your mates, and if one soldier is gay, and another hates his guts for it and wouldn't care at all if he got shot or try to save him, who's really the worse soldier, SMM, who?

Regardless of how anyone feels, they are laying down their lives for their country's people, and they do not deserve that kind of treatment, even if it was (and it would be minorly) wrong (which it isn't).

Fuck people like SMM. The worst part is that these people claim to support our troops (well, your troops, me being English and everything, but this happens everywhere) and be the ones who truly respect them and what they're doing!

Hypocritical, vile cunts like him should try serving a day in Iraq. They'll change their tune then.

old comment by Felis >:3

@Fang: it seems the researchers weren't doing their job properly, judging by this guy.

SpiriutalMadMan's off in the clouds. Read this again:
"But, "openly" usually means the ones that are not shy about coming on to total strangers.

Like I said, off in the clouds!

Hypocritical, vile cunts like him should try serving a day in Iraq. They'll change their tune then.

old comment by Meph

STD apparently stands for non-Sexually Transmitted Disease now...

Also, I was having a conversation about this with a friend who spent a year in Iraq. He supports having openly gay troops allowed in the military, since
1. A military unit is already comprised of people from all walks of life. These men have to look past differences in education, economic status, race, religion, political views, and a number of other things, so overcoming a difference in sexual orientation is quite feasible.
2. As he puts it, there are plenty of gay men out there who are willing and able to do the job, and plenty of straight soldiers who are shitheads who don't deserve to be in the Army. When your life is on the line, he'd rather have a gay man he can depend on than a straight man he can't.
3. A forward operating base will usually have women in noncombat roles there. Naturally, they have sex with the male soldiers. It's not like adding gay men would suddenly add a previously nonexistent sexual element.

old comment by SpiritualMadMan

There are three types of lies...

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics...

The "Statistics" that *appear* to show active duty personell are "OK" with having openly gay persons serving with them in combat positions have grouped many responses into one "apparently" "positive" response.

I have not seen that amoung the troops I serve with.

BTW I served six years during Vietnam. And, I now "serve" on a US Marine Corps Base.

I can "Code Red" an unwanted advance from a Straight. I am not so sure that once this "right" is granted I would be able to "Code Red" a Gay's advances.

And, I *have* worked with Gays. But, they were more interested in doing their jobs than trumpetting their sexual oreintation.

The fact that a gay woould want to trumpet their sexual oreintation is "troubling" in that it would appear that trumpetting their sexual oreintattion is more important than getting the job done.

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Yeah...and those who HAVE served in the military DO have an idea what having an openly gay person serving alonside of you is like. And the MAJORITY of the people in our military have NO PROBLEM with it. My husband served alongside several gay men and women, and everyone knew they were gay and NO ONE CARED, and NO ONE had a problem with them. No heterosexual man or woman in their unit ever had to contend with the homosexual men and women "coming on to them", any more than they did with anyone else.
The exact same rules apply to homosexuals when it comes to 'hitting on you' as apply to anyone else, like men serving alongside women. If someone DOES flirt with you, and you don't like it, you can tell them to stop just as a woman would tell a man to stop, or a man would tell a woman to stop in the same situation. You talk about homosexuals as if all they do is hit on everyone they meet, all the time, when that isn't a fact at all. It's all because of the hate and bigotry and ignorance that's been forced on your by your religion, that you have no concept of reality.

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