The progs are all about "the return to the primitive". Look at the way they've hypnotized almost two generations of young people into disfiguring themselves with piercings, tattoos and implants. Music, art, fashion...all celebrate and promote the ugly and perverse.
The hatred of order and beauty, the almost fanatical rejection of Christianity, the dismissal of the white race as somehow evil and inferior...this is not going to end well.
I truly believe at some point God steps in and says "OK, everyone out of the pool". Can't happen soon enough for me!
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Tats and piercings go back wayyyyyyy beyond two generations!
I'm sure the ladies of biblical times had pierced ears.
I'm equally sure that a large number of men also had pierced ears...
Coming from someone who's inked and pierced, there's nothing wrong with tatts or piercings. Not to mention that we have the evidence, so we win. Both those can be traced as far back as several ancient cultures. And since when do "progs" tell kids to get implants? I thought that was the cheuvanists(sp?)?
Though I do agree a lot of modern music sucks, it's because it just plain old sucks, not because it's "of the debil!".
"The hatred of order and beauty, the almost fanatical rejection of Christianity, the dismissal of the white race as somehow evil and inferior"
A-HA! Now we get to the heart of the issue! You just can't stand people that aren't racist like you!
*sigh* Don't ever reproduce.
Wyatt's Torch,
What do you know about art or music> Have you studied either? Are you an artist or a composer? If not, then you are talking out of your fundamentalist fundament.
It could even be argued that the white race IS evil, seeing what it has done wherever is has imposed itself on other indigenous cultures.
As for piercings and tattoos, it is a matter of taste et de gustibus non est disputandum. Not that I expect you would know anything about taste. BTW, Tatts and Piercings are certainly no worse than infant circumcision. At least they are done when the individual is capable of giving consent.
Please STFU
Primitive things can be orderly and beautiful too, ya know. Compared to our lifestyles, the lifestyles around 1 AD looks primitive.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; what you find ugly and perverse, someone else will find beautiful and orderly. I find it very perverse to wish for the end of the world. What about several generations of old people who have face-lifts until they can't smile anymore? Isn't that ugly and perverse?
"at some point God steps in and says "OK, everyone out of the pool". Can't happen soon enough for me!"
You don't have to wait to be told you know, you could just leave now.
The progs are all about "the return to the primitive". Look at the way they've hypnotized almost two generations of young people into disfiguring themselves with piercings, tattoos and implants. Music, art, fashion...all celebrate and promote the ugly and perverse.
This from someone who gets their ideals, beliefs, and moral guidance from Bronze Age sheepherders who forced genital mutilation on everyone they could.
The hatred of order and beauty, the almost fanatical rejection of Christianity, the dismissal of the white race as somehow evil and inferior...
Christianity, for Wyatt and many others, is all about the order and beauty of hatred.
I truly believe at some point God steps in and says "OK, everyone out of the pool". Can't happen soon enough for me!
Fundie Christians tend to make bad comedians, too. He's talking about the same god that once drowned all the men, women, children, and animals in a flood.
Wait, can someone tell me where in the atheist handbook it says I have to get tattoos or piercings? I don't have either, so must have missed that in my atheist orientation meeting.
And I'm tempted to call this a trifecta, since we have racism and a hint of conspiracy thrown in.
@Xotan
If anything it could be argued that humanity is evil for that, not the non-existent 'white race'.
@Wyatt's Torch
Progs? are those like Pogs?
"The progs are all about "the return to the primitive"."
Says the true believer in a Sumerian creation myth.
"I truly believe at some point God steps in and says "OK, everyone out of the pool". Can't happen soon enough for me!"
It'll happen any time now. Just ask Ronald Reagan, or Jerry Falwell, or Pat Robertson, or . . .
I, too, am inked and pierced... I don't recall receiving encouragement from de debil.
ETA - dunno how this happened! I didn't repeat this post from earlier - maybe it was dat debil!
"I truly believe at some point God steps in and says "OK, everyone out of the pool".
You were saying something about "the return to the primitive"? Tribal loony worships imaginary Cloudster?
White people don't have tattoos. Otze the Iceman wants a word with you...
"BRAINS? HMMRRR." *Otze knocks on Wyatt's head, finding only air* "BRAINS!!! NEED BRAINS!!!!"
No! Don't take it out on me! Mr. Iceman! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
(Dramatization. May not have happened)
I truly believe at some point God steps in and says "OK, everyone out of the pool".
Has He stepped in and said "OK, enough of this 'people dying of cancer' crap" or "I'm getting fed up with these damned earthquakes devastating whole cities for no good reason"? In fact, can you point to where He has ever stepped in and done anything useful? No. So what makes you think He's suddenly going to get off His ass, step in and yell at people for trivial nonsense like getting tattoos?
I'm sure the ladies of biblical times had pierced ears.
Pierced NOSES, even! It's explicitly mentioned (and IIRC, never condemned) in the Old Testament at least once or twice.
I remember meeting some Pakistani ladies in our local Walmart some years back, and they all had beautiful nose piercings. I imagine Rebecca, Sarah, and Mary and a lot of other Old and New Testament women were probably no different in that respect.
"they've hypnotized almost two generations of young people"
"the almost fanatical rejection of Christianity"
"dismissal of the white race as somehow evil and inferior"
Sounds like a trifecta to me. congrats Wyatt's Torch, you're an idiot three ways.
> The hatred of order and beauty, the almost fanatical rejection of Christianity,
If someone wants order, beauty and logic, they sure as hell won't find it in Christianity. The dullness, inglorious bits and contradictions in the Bible far outweigh the beautiful parts. There's a long-standing clash between the Christian scriptures and the actual practical traditions and the status quo, and the status quo is more rational than the "objective, unchanging truth". Rational Christians have carved a nice comfortable hole in middle of a gigantic mess. Fundies want everyone to climb over the edge and return to the trash heap.
> the dismissal of the white race as somehow evil and inferior
Who said anything about to that effect? In matters of race and gender and such, people want equality, which by definition means that some things unfairly promoted get demoted, just as some things unfairly demoted get promoted. To achieve balance, things change - but that is only to correct past mistakes.
Perhaps your own prejudices and fears are showing. Perhaps you don't want to be "demoted" and thought as an equal for some reason. Perhaps you're wrong.
I assume by "progs" you mean progressives and progressives are about making progress (hence the name), not about returning to the primitive, making people get tattoos, or making white people seem evil.
Funny how with all the terrible things that humans have done to each other throughout history (wars, slavery, continued hatred of other groups, etc.) the thing that's going to push God to the breaking point is body art.
Nope, young people get piercings and tattoos because its fashionable to do so. And they do it of their own free will, you know, that thing that "Gawd" gave us all. Nothing to do with hypnosis, more to do with what popular culture deems to be a desirable way to look. Fashions will change, and who knows, maybe in 20 years another fundie will be decrying what is en vogue at that time to be "of the debbil". God's not going to step in and say anything, just like God's never stepped in and said anything since the universe began, 13 odd billion years ago.
The progs are all about "the return to the primitive".
Basic. Understanding. Of the Meanings of words. FAIL!
The hatred of order and beauty,
UWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA?
the almost fanatical rejection of Christianity,
This has to do with a purely political discussion because ?
the dismissal of the white race as somehow evil and inferior...this is not going to end well.
RACIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIST!
Progressives don't believe that white people are any more or less evil than anybody else. After all, given the chance, people of any race will oppress and discriminate against all others (cf. Japan, Korea, etc.) simply because Humans Are Bastards. What progressives do is not give any group a chance to do that.
"Music, art, fashion...all celebrate and promote the ugly and perverse. "
You must be a very boring individual.
"The hatred of order and beauty, the almost fanatical rejection of Christianity, the dismissal of the white race as somehow evil and inferior...this is not going to end well.
"
Explain to me how? It sounds to me that you're getting upset because other people that are different from you via where they are from or who they worship are getting equal footing with the white christian male.
I have no idea why piercings and tattoos are bad. It's your body, if you want to do it, do it.
If by "progs" you mean progressives, then I think it's actually conservatives who want to return to the primitive. You know, when women obeyed men, when blacks obeyed whites, when gays obeyed straights, when people who were in anyway different were inferior to those who were "normal". I'll go with progressive, thanks.
Now STFU, Wyatt.
"Music, art, fashion...all celebrate and promote the ugly and perverse."
LOL. Tell that to all the stereotypically unattractive people that have tried to succeed in mainstream pop music and as fashion models.
How are you stupid? Let me count the ways:
1. Religion fail, especially your own
2. Philosophy fail
3. Reality fail
4. Cultural fail
5. Logic fail
6. Racial fail
Damn, that's a whole lot of fail for one short entry.
@ nazani14: Why would a white supremacist want anything to blemish the 'purity'of their skin?
@ OP: The very fact that progressives want equality for all races is exactly why Wyatt's quaking in his boots. In order to make an even split, whitey has a lot farther to fall than everyone else has to climb. And it's not the fall that hurts, it's the landing...
Wyatt calls tatts and piercings primitive and ugly. I just think it's using the canvas of the body as it was meant to be used.
@Dee Dee
Not necessarily. I was just pointing out the irony of the OP's statement since he appears to be a racist asshole.
I even disagree that tattoos and piercings are all ugly. It is what you get tattoed, like for instance swastikas and shultzaffel (sp?) runes, that make you a bastard IMO.
There was a picture of a nazi somebody put up on this site, he was literally covered with racist tattoos all over his face. I wish for the life of me that I could find it. He looked like a hideous bastard. Definitely not "ordered and beautiful".
Primitive humans: Based everything on superstition, let prejudice be the law of the land in regards to people who were a little bit different than most members of the group, use violence as an answer to everything, shun education, fear all change.
Sophisticated humans: Base things on reason, attempt to rid selves of prejudice and focus on individual rights, use peaceful means to resolve disputes and only use violence as a last resort, embrace education, understand that change is a normal and sometimes desirable part of life.
Uber-conservatives like you: Let religion make your decisions instead of logic, view humanity as a group of countries (aka tribes) instead of a single species and attempt to oppress those who disagree with you, treat war as wank material, whine because schools teach facts instead of theology, and thing change will destroy the world.
Moderate progressives: Wish to move away from the theocratic societies of yesteryear, support equal rights and freedoms and view humanity as a single species rather than a group of tribes, view war as a last resort, understand the importance of education, and believe that the world needs to change for the better.
Hmmmmm.
"I truly believe at some point God steps in and says "OK, everyone out of the pool". Can't happen soon enough for me!"
*YAWN* Your beliefs are so childish and boring.
Fairly certain nobody hypnotized me into getting my first tattoo, or planning my next one.
Could be wrong, but I like to think a woman who was a Jafar fangirl for ten years knows a little something about hypnosis.
@ LP: I guess someone could even get away with a swastika tattoo if, as was the case before the 1930's, it was the solar symbol of a religion like Jainism or Buddhism. But probably not.
Damnit, why do all the cool designs get hogged by douchebags?
@DeeDee
Technically, the sig rune, odal rune, and wolfshook aren't actually racist in origin either. It's just that if you get it tattooed on you people may call you racist. It really is too bad that Nazi's have ruined some good symbols.
I have no tattoos or piercings, though really the only thing keeping me from getting anything like that done is a rather low pain threshold. It's got nothing to do with the devil, and what do piercings have to do with race, i'm pretty sure that most every culture has had them in some form or other
You can't see it, Wyatt, but I'm sticking my tongue out at you. It has a barbell in it.
And yes, all these tats and piercings... nevermind the rampant corruption, disease and starvation in the third world - God will end the world because of ink and jewellery.
Totes makes sense.
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