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modern scientists need to be reeled in and monitered, no more giving them a free pass or assuming they know what they are talking about, they don't unless they are true christians who apply God's ways to the field.

archaeologist, Dakota's Christian Forum 85 Comments [2/13/2011 7:11:32 AM]
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Kamist

"Modern Fundies need to be reeled in and monitored, no more giving them a free pass or assuming they know what they are talking about, they don't unless they are sane people who apply reason and logic to the world. "

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2/13/2011 7:15:17 AM

Bad Wolf

That's the same thing Stalin did, in the Soviet Union, and they are STILL trying to recover. (Of course Stalin wasn't trying to make sure they were Christians), but he had the same motivation: To rein in scientists, and punish all those who didn't toe the "party line".

Isn't it amazing how much fundamentalism resembles other forms of dictatorships? NAZIism, Stalinist Russia, Maoism. In each, if you are unwilling to support the predominate party, you are shunned, or worse.

2/13/2011 7:20:02 AM

The_L

So, in addition to taking away their First Amendment right to freedom of the press (a rights violation that cuts both ways), you feel that an educated person who has dedicated his/her life to a subject knows less about it than you do. I find this laughable--someone who doesn't even know enough to use proper grammar and punctuation on a forum is the LAST person I would expect to know anything about ANY of the sciences.

2/13/2011 7:29:05 AM

Anon2

Go ahead. Do it. Monitor science. Shun scientists who are no "true christians" (who decides who is a true christian and whos not, anyway?). Transform science to "applying God's ways".

After a very short time, the rednecks and teabaggers won't need to get upset anymore about all the foreign aid given by the USA. Because then the USA will need to receive foreign aid...

2/13/2011 7:29:44 AM

Kinderklein

Science comes to a screeching halt every time religion reels it in. I guess you can't turn back time, but stopping it is a good second option?

2/13/2011 7:31:25 AM

Berny

Why don't you simply come right out and say it, you'd like the Inquisition back.

2/13/2011 7:35:26 AM

Argle Bargle

And you wonder why you're called the Christian Taliban.

2/13/2011 7:37:04 AM

snide

I know a farmer who regularly likes to "apply God's ways to the field", though he calls it 'manuring'....

2/13/2011 7:39:54 AM

John_in_Oz

Dude! Don't go spilling out your wet dreams without an Adult Content warning. Children could read that shit!

2/13/2011 7:45:21 AM

Canadiest

This is their ultimate goal, to lock real knowledge away. Even the movie Expelled had this over-riding concept that Christian beliefs have to be incorporated into science WIETHER THEY FIT OR NOT.

Guess who they think should be in charge of the "reeled in and monitered" agency? Can you imagine Fundie rule over science? Dark-Ages Two

2/13/2011 7:46:34 AM

Doubting Thomas

So in other words, we need to go back to the Dark Ages.

2/13/2011 7:53:32 AM

Goosey

"modern scientists need to be reeled in and monitered, no more giving them a free pass or assuming they know what they are talking about"

Yeah. That would be awesome. Imagine if we got other people to read what scientists wrote and decide whether or not it was true. You know, other people who had, themselves, been proven to know what they're talking about by this system. In other words, we should get scientists to be reviewed by their peers before we accept what they say. That would be a wonderful idea.

'Course, if you fucksticks weren't still living in the 16th century, you might be aware that we've been doing exactly that since the 18th.

"they don't unless they are true christians who apply God's ways to the field."

Um, no. That's just stupid.

2/13/2011 8:04:18 AM

Amanda

Sounds like a good old-fashioned 16th century attitude. Galileo would totally know what you're talking about.

2/13/2011 8:14:22 AM

KR

I can't understand why fundies want the Dark Ages back? We don't need anymore hold-ups in progress, we're already behind by decades from the first Dark Ages. No real sense of doing it all over again.

2/13/2011 8:30:17 AM

D Laurier

You should see this twit barfing all over CARM these days.

2/13/2011 8:40:53 AM

Pule Thamex

Please sir! Please sir! I know! Me! Me! Ask me, sir! I know how to apply God's way to the field, particularly in regard to the question, 'What constant determines the relationship between the distance to a galaxy and its velocity of recession due to the expansion of the Universe?'

The answer, sir, is that God is the constant. And it is arrived at sir by multiplying God's penchant for genocide by His propensity to punish people for collecting sticks on Sundays that are really Saturdays. So therefore, if you add the number of feet on an insect to pi, or, in other words 4 + 3, you get 7, which equals the number of days in a week, days that are mostly named after cool Gods like Thor, therefore, God's allowance of slavery equals rather precisely the distance from Texas to the Moon. Furthermore, the fact that there is no such thing as evolution, is proof positive that God is bigger than Pluto.

As you can see sir, I want to be a proper God fearing scientist when I grow up.

2/13/2011 8:44:26 AM

LDM

A number of people dear to me (myself included) are alive today thanks to those modern scientists you want to censor so badly.

2/13/2011 8:51:08 AM

John

"Modern scientists need to be reeled in and monitored - no more giving them a free pass or assuming they know what they are talking about. They don't, unless they are true Christians who apply God's ways to the field"

Pope Urban VIII
Roman Inquisition v. Galileo, 1633

2/13/2011 9:10:51 AM

TGRwulf

Yes Mien Furer. Godwin I know, but it fits.

2/13/2011 9:38:59 AM

Justanotheratheist

So scientists should only be allowed to work if they arrive at a conclusion which is both preconceived and incorrect?

Fuck off somewhere nice and quiet, and grow up.

2/13/2011 9:42:02 AM



Think twice before typing in a computer, IDIOT!!!

2/13/2011 9:58:36 AM

ohioobserver

This idiot (and the other idiots in the thread it comes from) are all complaining about how scientific conclusions change over time. Excuse me, you ignorant jerks, what do you do when you get new evidence? Oh, I forgot -- the truth is truth, unchanging, and evidence doesn't matter a damn.

2/13/2011 10:05:35 AM

NoriMori

@LDM

Hear hear! Same here — C-section saved me, AND my mom. Can't say the same for my great-aunt Shirley. She died during childbirth because her doctor was a fuckwad who wouldn't believe that anything was wrong. They didn't even have ambulances back then, she had to hitch a ride on the milkman's truck to get to the hospital.

Tell me, archaeologist, do you want us to go back to that stage of life? The stage where way more people die than is necessary because there aren't any of these modern technological advances that can save them? The stage where even more doctors than usual don't have a clue what they're talking about?

Really? You want that? Then you have to answer to my great-aunt Shirley, and every other person who has died simply because they had the misfortune of not being born in the late 20th century. She didn't even get to meet her son, let alone her first nephew. She was 18. She was a frigging child. And she died because science just wasn't far along enough to a) provide her with contraception, b) advise her that having a child at age 18 might not be wise, and c) diagnose her ailment soon enough. If you want science to come to a screeching halt so we can save even less lives than we already would have, then fuck you — because what you're basically saying is that people like Aunt Shirley deserve to die, because you and your god said so.

2/13/2011 10:06:42 AM

Iczer-four



it seems some Christians want to plunge humanity back into the dark ages. truly pathetic.

2/13/2011 10:57:48 AM



God doesn't say anything about my field. I know some of His more ardent supporters think He does, but they are wrong. I'm afraid that the equivalent of centuries of concentrated research trumps the secondhand (thirdhand? eleventhhand? hundredandfourteenthhand?) retelling of a dubious history.

2/13/2011 10:59:48 AM

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