It's really quite hilarious to see this unfold: Homeopathy skeptics and vicious Big Pharma attack dogs are running around the globe in ludicrous demonstrations where they consume huge doses of homeopathic remedies in public and then claim that because they don't die of an "overdose," these medicines therefore don't work.
Notice that they never consume their own medicines in large doses? Chemotherapy? Statin drugs? Blood thinners? They wouldn't dare drink those. In fact, today I'm challenging the homeopathic skeptics and other medical fundamentalists to a "drink-a-thon" test to see which medicines will kill you faster. But we'll get to that in a minute...
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Are you the stupidest person in the history of imbecility? The "Big Pharma attack dogs" don't consume their own medicines in huge doses because their medicines actually work, so an overdose would be dangerous. They'll happily drink large smounts of homeopathic "medicine" though, as it's much harder to die of a water overdose. This is exactly the point that homeopathic sceptics are making. Homeopathic medicines actually state nonsense about the dangers of overdosing on their labels.
"I'm challenging the homeopathic skeptics and other medical fundamentalists to a "drink-a-thon" test to see which medicines will kill you faster."
I suppose what you're trying to say is that homeopathic medicine is safer. In a sense it is, as water is always pretty safe, but substituting water for real, scientifically researched medicine, is actually far more dangerous if you have a serious medical condition.
And this point has been made many times before, but homeopathy is a multi-million dollar industry, and as such, hardly different from the nebulous "Big Pharma" that you deride.
I'll take that bet!
Provided we swap medicines. I'll drink lots of water (sorry, I mean, 'homeopathic remedies'), you OD on something that has an actual biological effect. According to your 'theory', you're safe either way, so it shouldn't matter.
Way to totally miss the point by several hundred miles.
The reason real drugs can cause fatal overdoses is because, well, when you take them, they actually affect the body. If you take the normally prescribed dose of blood thinner, it thins your blood. Take too much
and you bleed to death. That's how real drugs work.
Homeopathic "drugs" are nothing more than water. They don't affect the body at all, except for maybe hydrating you to a minor extent. Yes, you can die from drinking too much water but you have to drink a shitload of it.
Con-men or con-women talk as stupidly as they do, because the people who throw money at them are themselves completely stupid, therefore the stupider the con-men or con-women talk, the more their idiotic clients will respond in their favour, with money. Obviously, this lazy and money-loving evil berk, Mike Adams, is a con-man.
I don't think you understand what they meant. The fact that they drink ludicrous amounts of homeopathic "medicines" and suffer no ill effects is because that stuff is just incredibly diluted water. If they were to consume those same amounts of their real medicines, they would overdose and die, because that stuff actually does something.
So, not only do homeopaths claim that modern medicine doesn't work, but also that even when they do work, that supports homeopathy. We're damned if we do, and damned if we don't, it seems. Shouldn't that be the biggest proof AGAINST homeopathic claims? (Besides the fact that, you know, they don't work?)
And I love how the word "homeopathy" sounds like a medical disorder. Unintentional accuracy of the century award, right there.
We don't play around with chemotherapy and blood thinners because those are medicines, that affect the body. Homeopathy is not so much a medicine as it is a regular old drink of ordinary water. It's an excellent cure for dehydration. Beyond that, it makes about as good a remedy as it does a poison.
This is the same asshole who claims it was the chemo that killed Farah Fawcett and Patrick Swayze, and that if they had used "natural" medicine they would have recovered. He even claims chemotherapy is a mortal sin.
I would give him no more of my time than I would give a Neo-Nazi, and for much the same reason.
This isn't just stupid. It's plain evil what these peddlers of homeopathic medicine are doing.
They are selling water (and video-tapes and books on alternative health) for *real* cash - diverting people's money from real treatment AND riling up crowds of well-intending people against the medical profession, vaccinations and whatnot.
This Mike Adams is a blood-sucking vampire. I don't believe for a minute he buys all the crap he and his fans spout (just read some of the contents of his supporters: they are either delusional or money-making-skemers-with-a-website themselves).
They don't try to 'overdose' on actual pharmaceauticals because they would probably die or be seriously injured because, oh, I dunno...they actually work!?!
Homepathics are water and work no better than the placebo effect. Look it up.
Show us the large, scienifically done, double-blind studies which show homeopathy works and we'll all give up on modern medicine. Until then, STFU.
Here's a different challenge; you and me get put under twenty four hour surveillance, and both of us get daily injections of a cocktail of carcinogens, yu get the regular stuff while I get tap water a homeopathically prepared super-carcinogen. You keep taking whatever tap water homeopathic anti-cancer remedies you want, I take whatever counter-carcinogens, if any, modern medicine has to offer. When either one gets cancer, they go off the carcinogens, and if it's me I go to chemo, whereas you will switch to differently labeled tap water homeopathic cancer remedies.
The one who's left standing in the end, wins.
You up for it?
Having just been diagnosed with low thyroid condition, I plan to take my prescribed medication as directed and to avoid quack remedies because, you know, I want to get better, crazy as that sounds.
Holeee shit. If you actually read the rest of the stuff, it's pretty gosh darn crazy.
Basically, his argument is that homeopathic ... stuff doesn't kill you because it isn't a drug (no argument there). However, it still works because it's vibrations of electrons (if that sounds like bunk, that's because you're not "sophisticated" enough, though universities will begin teaching this is 2020, apparently). He then goes onto say that you can't "overdose on a harmony" and gives the example of 1 violin playing a harmony vs. 100 violins playing a harmony - it's the same harmony. Of course, he ignores the fact that 100 violins are a lot louder than 1 violin.
He finally goes on to his challenge, which basically boils down to "medicine shouldn't harm you". That's the equivalent of saying that you shouldn't eat because if you eat 200 pounds of food in one sitting you'll die.
I'm going to completely miss the point of your rant that completely missed the point.
"Electrons are vibrations and not physical objects."
And...?
"But, oh yeah, I forgot. The skeptics don't know that yet. That won't be taught that in university physics classes until probably 2020, at which point most of them will probably be dead from taking pharmaceuticals to treat their own diseases."
I don't think he's heard of quantum physics, being taught today. And if he has, I don't think he understands it.
"For now, they've all convinced themselves that electrons are -- get this -- tiny "particles" flying around atomic nuclei and tremendous speeds which just happen to stay in their little orbits like little perpetual motion machines (which they say are impossible), until all of a sudden, these electron "particles" inexplicably leap to a higher or lower orbit without occupying the space in-between those orbits at any moment."
Again, quantum physics, wave-particle duality, what do?
"Yep, magic teleporting particles! That's the "scientific" explanation of these folks. No wonder so many of them are magicians: Believing their explanations requires that you believe in particle magic!"
"which isn't magic but rather vibrational physics, you can't overdose on a harmony."
Wha?
Throw him in a pit.
Confused?
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