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"You blame Satan yet forget that he was God's creation and an archangel at that. Archangel means chief of the angels and next to God as near perfect as possible, yet; you blame Satan for all the ills and give him more power than the omniscient God you worship?

A very confusing situation if I may say so!


I don't blame God for cantankerous, whining atheists either. That is their choice and not His fault, the same as satan had his choice. Not be fooled, in the end BOTH will be dealt with by God. Satan had his time and it is over for him. His fate is sealed and it will be dealt with by God. This is man's time, we still have hope, but in the end, we will ALL be dealt with by God. He's already explained it and made it very clear what you should choose. Don't blame Him if YOU choose wrong. I won't.

God is so superior to both satan and man and WILL have HIS way. He has offered it to all His creation. He's not to be blamed if they refuse it. He is the righteous Judge and EVERY KNEE will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!!! That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!!"

Inan3, Christian Forums 74 Comments [4/28/2011 3:48:31 AM]
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Brendan Rizzo

You still haven't explained why the fundie interpretation of Satan seems to be more powerful than the fundie interpretation of God. You also don't seem to understand how that goes against your own religion either, you heretic.

4/28/2011 8:23:05 AM

Gay Diest

Any god would allow evil to exsist because it's a product of free will. Having the choice to make yoru own decisions is better than being a puppet. Now obviously evil actions must be punished by peers and the law to help deter people from commiting such actions.

But then comes the paradox of this man's statement. If the Christian God were to be one of the gods who values free choice, why would he FORCE you to bow or proclaim his name? Heck, why even have a hell for sinners if you're just going to force everyone to worship you in the end?

Also if you're already in hell, what more judgement can you get?


4/28/2011 8:33:13 AM

breakerslion

Duh,
Don't you worry.
Never Fear.
Jesus Christ will soon be here.

He'll torture all,
That I do hate.
He'll bring me presents,
Just you wait!

Yeah, yeah.

4/28/2011 9:05:45 AM

bigjilm

I'm sorry but I couldn't understand a word you said with Jesus pile-driving your mouth the whole time.

4/28/2011 9:06:09 AM



Inan3, for all of your ranting and screaming, you didn't actually *say* a damn thing here.

4/28/2011 10:02:32 AM

that dutch guy

no. I will not. if being a good cristian means boing and groveling in the dust to stroke Gods ego,
if being a good cristian means hunting down atheist, muslims and the gays like they are evil personified,
if being a good cristian means thowing all knowledge and reason overboard,
if being a good cristian means allowing the rape and murder of children and innocents to happen becaus it is gods will,

then you can tell your god he can stick it up his divine ass because i. will. not.

even if he exists, going to hell is a small price to pay for a clean concience.

4/28/2011 10:03:29 AM

NonProphet

...So, your God is Emperor Palpatine?

4/28/2011 10:27:18 AM

Berny

Absolute fucking nonsense. Always has been and always will be a circular argument.
Satan, should he exist, knows God also exists, thus his rebellion is personal.
I don't know God exists and I've never seen any evidence of his existence (no your Bible doesn't count, moron) thus my atheism is not an act of rebellion but simply healthy skepticism.
As for bowing before the divine bully, he'll have to break my knees, at which point I'm bowing against my will and it doesn't count.

EDIT: Just realized the poster's sig is "inane". Methinks Poe.

4/28/2011 10:28:55 AM

John

Not be fooled, in the end BOTH will be dealt with by God.

Why "in the end"? Does he have something else to do in the meantime?

I've never understood the Christian God. He always comes up with some bizarre, Rube Goldberg way of doing things. He's annoyed with mankind's sinfulness. Does he just poof them back out of existence? No. He has some guy build a huge boat and collect two of each animal (seven of the more edible ones). Then he makes a complete mess of the planet. Then he regrets it and says he won't do it again. And then it doesn't even work, since he had to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah only a few hundred years later.

He wants to help Joshua win a battle. Does he just smite the enemy? No. He makes the sun stand still, then sits back and lets them go on killing each other.

4/28/2011 10:34:50 AM

JSS

{God is so superior to both satan and man and WILL have HIS way. He has offered it to all His creation. He's not to be blamed if they refuse it. He is the righteous Judge and EVERY KNEE will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!!! That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!!"}

Uh, yeah. A little something about free will.

4/28/2011 10:43:49 AM

Allegory for Jesus

Ah, the old "good, omnipotent and omniscient creator can't be held responsible for what his creations do because mumble mumble mumble" excuse. Pro-tip: Omnipotence, omniscience, and goodness in a creator do not allow for truly free will. This is because either deity in question would be unable to do things that influence people's decisions (not omnipotent), it would be unable to truly predict any given person's fate (not omniscient), or it decides not to intervene despite knowing of harm inflicted or suffered (not good). There is no way that free will can work without one or more of the above three qualities turning into nonsense.

The free will argument is just an attempt to quickly brush things under the rug and pretend that everything is just peachy.

4/28/2011 11:40:38 AM

aaa

Is that a boner i am picking up on my sensors?

4/28/2011 11:55:20 AM

The Duelist

No I won't. Fuck you and your cult and your fellow cultists, bitch.

4/28/2011 11:57:56 AM

Godbuster

You kind of... just repeated the same non-answer over two paragraphs... I guess that question sent the fundie into some kind of logic loop or so.

4/28/2011 2:54:09 PM

Old Viking

The "knee bend" quotation is a last resort for the desperate.

4/28/2011 3:11:10 PM



Choosing to asslick God because the threat of hellfire just as much an exercise in my free will as "freely" giving an armed mugger my wallet.

4/28/2011 3:25:32 PM

checkmate

we will ALL be dealt with by God. He's already explained it and made it very clear what you should choose. Don't blame Him if YOU choose wrong.

Yup, God is all knowing, eternal, omnipotent, he is existence itself, and his love knows no end.

But when it comes to rules, man is he ever anal.

If God was a human, he'd really be a huge asshole, somebody nobody would want to have anything to do with.

Good thing for him he's God.

4/28/2011 3:33:41 PM

szaleniec

How does "we all have free will" coexist in any way with "everyone will be forced to bow before the BMITS"?

4/28/2011 5:00:33 PM

whatever

"He is the righteous Judge and EVERY KNEE will bow and EVERY tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord!!! That means you and your buddies whether it is a forced bow or a willing bow. That is your choice. You WILL bow!!!"

In other words... Welcome to Pyongyang, enjoy your stay.

4/28/2011 5:39:20 PM

Canadia

CAPITALIZING words AT IMPORTANT JUNCTURES to SOUND like I have a POINT.

4/28/2011 5:51:36 PM

Gore

Let's all sing along with NOFX kids;

I have no consideration, zero mutual respect
for billions who suffer from rational thought
neglect.
I don't want to waste a sentence
I don't want a conversation
that's going to end in disdain, disbelief and aggrevation
And I find it's getting harder to hang out
with grown adults who actually believe...
In santa claus, and Noah's ark, and their god
is the best.
My distate has turned into detest

(musical interlude)

Who would read a 2000 year old medical journal
Techniques for blood letting, advice on trichinosis
Who would navigate the globe with a map of a
flat earth? Without DNA testing, would ya
believe virgin birth?
And I find it's getting painful to put up
with grown adults who actually believe...
In unicorns and creation and god always takes
their side
My innocent jabbing turns snide

(musical interlude)

Thank god for the Grammy, thank god for the
touchdown, thank god for blowin up the enemy's
sacred ground.
So how am I supposed to take anything you say
seriously, when you swap free will for faith,
hope and predestiny
And it's getting agonizing to hang out with
grown adults who actually believe...
Mythology and History trump Physics and Science
My aversion has turned to abhorrence.

(compliments to NOFX: Best God in Show)

4/28/2011 7:38:34 PM

Percy Q. Shunn

I can promise you that this knee will never bow to your pussy of a god.

4/28/2011 9:29:43 PM



Table Rock beat me to it

4/28/2011 9:31:21 PM


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